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Old Fri Jan 16, 2015, 09:47am
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I have always believed that if they get the ball first, unless they do something else or not basketball related to cause contact, we should not call a foul.

Some disagree with this, but if you see good athletes you will call a lot of fouls on them if we always expect perfect blocks with no contact.

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Old Fri Jan 16, 2015, 08:01pm
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I have always believed that if they get the ball first, unless they do something else or not basketball related to cause contact, we should not call a foul.

Some disagree with this, but if you see good athletes you will call a lot of fouls on them if we always expect perfect blocks with no contact.

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Really good athletes block the shot without creating such contact.

No, I don't call fouls for minor contact in the process of blocking a shot, but knocking someone down from behind in the process of blocking a shot is too much.
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Old Sat Jan 17, 2015, 02:29am
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Really good athletes block the shot without creating such contact.

No, I don't call fouls for minor contact in the process of blocking a shot, but knocking someone down from behind in the process of blocking a shot is too much.
I did not say they created the contact. When you have guys coming in hard to the basket and someone is in front of them, some contact is going to take place. And falling to the floor is not a good judge if the shooter is coming hard into bigger bodies or a lot of bodies. It happen tonight in my games where a smaller kid came into a much bigger kid (size and height) and clearly was displaced by a legal defender (fell hard). We did not call a foul. No one said a word.

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Old Sat Jan 17, 2015, 10:44am
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I did not say they created the contact. When you have guys coming in hard to the basket and someone is in front of them, some contact is going to take place. And falling to the floor is not a good judge if the shooter is coming hard into bigger bodies or a lot of bodies. It happen tonight in my games where a smaller kid came into a much bigger kid (size and height) and clearly was displaced by a legal defender (fell hard). We did not call a foul. No one said a word.

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Which is clearly not what the OP was talking about.
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Old Sat Jan 17, 2015, 10:59am
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Airborne shooter ends up on the floor. How did he end up on the floor?

Was it because he was out of control and could have ended up on the floor by his own doing? If so, then the contact could be ruled incidental and you have nothing but a split lip.

If he was under control and would have returned to the floor in a normal fashion, but didn't, then the contact is a foul.

We get a split second to decide this.

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Old Sat Jan 17, 2015, 06:12pm
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Which is clearly not what the OP was talking about.
Are we sure about that? The OP tried to paint a picture, but that does not mean if we saw the play in question, that we would not have a different picture of what actually happened. That is why I said this was a HTBT situation where the play in question could have been affected by the size of the players and how fast and hard they were running to the basket as well.

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Old Sun Jan 18, 2015, 03:06am
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Are we sure about that? The OP tried to paint a picture, but that does not mean if we saw the play in question, that we would not have a different picture of what actually happened.
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Pretty much, yes.

You've flipped the play from one where the defender was trailing on a fast break into one where the shooter drove into a defender already in front of them.

Not sure how one person could have the defender running in behind the shooter and the other would have the defender in front other the shooter with the shooter coming in hard towards the defender.
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