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Old Tue Jan 06, 2015, 10:59pm
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Old Wed Jan 07, 2015, 12:03am
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I wish this would this line of thinking would gain some traction. Mostly so I wouldn't look like an idiot being one of the few officials in the area actually calling this correctly.
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Old Wed Jan 07, 2015, 12:14am
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Eh, looks marginal to me.
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Old Wed Jan 07, 2015, 12:34am
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Eh, looks marginal to me.
The player has both hands on the ball with his right foot on the floor
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Old Wed Jan 07, 2015, 02:09am
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Pretty much a text book travel that is just missed by way too many.
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Old Wed Jan 07, 2015, 02:31am
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Some of the spin moves are difficult to get.

This one isn't.
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Old Wed Jan 07, 2015, 03:54am
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Eh, looks marginal to me.
That video is extremely well-selected as the footwork is very clear.
There is nothing marginal about this one. It is a blatant travel.

I was able to quickly pause the video three different times with the player holding the ball in both hands while his right foot is in contact with the floor on top of the volleyball line. When this foot is picked up and replaced on the floor before the shot, it is clearly a traveling violation.
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Old Wed Jan 07, 2015, 09:09am
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I think the choice of video and the OP's thread title are disingenuous, at best.

I'd expect officials to see this one. It's easy to see at first viewing, in real speed.

Not all the spin moves are easy to see, or they're in traffic, or there's bodies surrounding the player with the ball. Or, just maybe, they're not all traveling.

This crusade, to me, is puzzling. Most of us call traveling when it occurs. However when someone tells me to watch it in slow mo or frame by frame, I'm not interested. I don't get that look on the floor and neither do the coaches and other people watching. The world continues to spin and the sun continues to rise.
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Old Wed Jan 07, 2015, 09:19am
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quote from article: "High school basketball officials as a whole don’t do a very good job of ruling the illegal move as traveling."

So it's not just me who thinks that also.
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Old Wed Jan 07, 2015, 09:54am
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I think the choice of video and the OP's thread title are disingenuous, at best.

I'd expect officials to see this one. It's easy to see at first viewing, in real speed.
Not all the spin moves are easy to see, or they're in traffic, or there's bodies surrounding the player with the ball. Or, just maybe, they're not all traveling.

This crusade, to me, is puzzling. Most of us call traveling when it occurs. However when someone tells me to watch it in slow mo or frame by frame, I'm not interested. I don't get that look on the floor and neither do the coaches and other people watching. The world continues to spin and the sun continues to rise.
This may be true, and I agree. But you can watch any Div I men's game and see this exact play (several times during the game) not ruled a travel.
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quote from article: "High school basketball officials as a whole don’t do a very good job of ruling the illegal move as traveling."

So it's not just me who thinks that also.
Exactly.

And this video was a pretty easy one to get BTW.

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Old Wed Jan 07, 2015, 01:01pm
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quote from article: "High school basketball officials as a whole don’t do a very good job of ruling the illegal move as traveling."

So it's not just me who thinks that also.
I wonder why he picks on the HS officials here -- as if the college officials do any better with it.
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Old Wed Jan 07, 2015, 01:23pm
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I wonder why he picks on the HS officials here -- as if the college officials do any better with it.
He probably recognizes the vast majority of the officials are at the high school level. Heck we have people that reject anything that is mentioned about the college level. College officials see more tape get get evaluated much more already.

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Old Wed Jan 07, 2015, 02:11pm
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I wonder why he picks on the HS officials here -- as if the college officials do any better with it.
In addition to being a D1 official, he may be a HS assignor/supervisor.
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