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just another ref Tue Jan 06, 2015 10:59pm

It's not just me
 
http://davehallofficiating.com/get-t...Officiating%29

MechanicGuy Wed Jan 07, 2015 12:03am

I wish this would this line of thinking would gain some traction. Mostly so I wouldn't look like an idiot being one of the few officials in the area actually calling this correctly.

AremRed Wed Jan 07, 2015 12:14am

Eh, looks marginal to me.

MechanicGuy Wed Jan 07, 2015 12:34am

Quote:

Originally Posted by AremRed (Post 949025)
Eh, looks marginal to me.

The player has both hands on the ball with his right foot on the floor

Camron Rust Wed Jan 07, 2015 02:09am

Pretty much a text book travel that is just missed by way too many.

Rich Wed Jan 07, 2015 02:31am

Some of the spin moves are difficult to get.

This one isn't.

Nevadaref Wed Jan 07, 2015 03:54am

Quote:

Originally Posted by AremRed (Post 949025)
Eh, looks marginal to me.

That video is extremely well-selected as the footwork is very clear.
There is nothing marginal about this one. It is a blatant travel.

I was able to quickly pause the video three different times with the player holding the ball in both hands while his right foot is in contact with the floor on top of the volleyball line. When this foot is picked up and replaced on the floor before the shot, it is clearly a traveling violation.

Rich Wed Jan 07, 2015 09:09am

I think the choice of video and the OP's thread title are disingenuous, at best.

I'd expect officials to see this one. It's easy to see at first viewing, in real speed.

Not all the spin moves are easy to see, or they're in traffic, or there's bodies surrounding the player with the ball. Or, just maybe, they're not all traveling.

This crusade, to me, is puzzling. Most of us call traveling when it occurs. However when someone tells me to watch it in slow mo or frame by frame, I'm not interested. I don't get that look on the floor and neither do the coaches and other people watching. The world continues to spin and the sun continues to rise.

Raymond Wed Jan 07, 2015 09:19am

Quote:

Originally Posted by just another ref (Post 949018)

quote from article: "High school basketball officials as a whole don’t do a very good job of ruling the illegal move as traveling."

So it's not just me who thinks that also.

PG_Ref Wed Jan 07, 2015 09:54am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich (Post 949062)
I think the choice of video and the OP's thread title are disingenuous, at best.

I'd expect officials to see this one. It's easy to see at first viewing, in real speed.
Not all the spin moves are easy to see, or they're in traffic, or there's bodies surrounding the player with the ball. Or, just maybe, they're not all traveling.

This crusade, to me, is puzzling. Most of us call traveling when it occurs. However when someone tells me to watch it in slow mo or frame by frame, I'm not interested. I don't get that look on the floor and neither do the coaches and other people watching. The world continues to spin and the sun continues to rise.

This may be true, and I agree. But you can watch any Div I men's game and see this exact play (several times during the game) not ruled a travel.

bainsey Wed Jan 07, 2015 12:48pm

Embedded for your pleasure
 
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JRutledge Wed Jan 07, 2015 12:52pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 949065)
quote from article: "High school basketball officials as a whole don’t do a very good job of ruling the illegal move as traveling."

So it's not just me who thinks that also.

Exactly.

And this video was a pretty easy one to get BTW.

Peace

Rich Wed Jan 07, 2015 01:01pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 949065)
quote from article: "High school basketball officials as a whole don’t do a very good job of ruling the illegal move as traveling."

So it's not just me who thinks that also.

I wonder why he picks on the HS officials here -- as if the college officials do any better with it.

JRutledge Wed Jan 07, 2015 01:23pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich (Post 949098)
I wonder why he picks on the HS officials here -- as if the college officials do any better with it.

He probably recognizes the vast majority of the officials are at the high school level. Heck we have people that reject anything that is mentioned about the college level. College officials see more tape get get evaluated much more already.

Peace

Raymond Wed Jan 07, 2015 02:11pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich (Post 949098)
I wonder why he picks on the HS officials here -- as if the college officials do any better with it.

In addition to being a D1 official, he may be a HS assignor/supervisor.


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