Missed FT Attempt. How would you handle it?

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

I saw this while reading the news online this morning:

High School Basketball Player Breaks Rim with Free Throw

ROFLMTO!!

MTD, Sr.

[Nevadaref]

In my opinion it was not clear that the FT was going to be unsuccessful at the time the basket broke. Therefore, the game was interrupted during a FT, so that is the POI. I'm having her attempt the FT again after the necessary repairs are made.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

This is most definitely a missed FT attempt. If there were more FT Attempts to follow then shoot them after the rim has been replaced. If this was the first FT of a 1+1, a single FT or the last of a Bonus, or two-shot or three-shot FT sequence I would put the ball back into play with a Jump Ball at the Free Throw Circle, opps, I just woke up from my pre-breakfast nap, I mean I would put the ball back into play with an AP Throw-in.

MTD, Sr.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

In my opinion it was not clear that the FT was going to be unsuccessful at the time the basket broke. Therefore, the game was interrupted during a FT, so that is the POI. I'm having her attempt the FT again after the necessary repairs are made.

As it was not clear that the shot was missed at the time of the rim breaking, I agree that the POI is DURING THE FREE THROW and that upon resumption of play we go back to the free throw.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

In my opinion it was not clear that the FT was going to be unsuccessful at the time the basket broke. Therefore, the game was interrupted during a FT, so that is the POI. I'm having her attempt the FT again after the necessary repairs are made.

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

As it was not clear that the shot was missed at the time of the rim breaking, I agree that the POI is DURING THE FREE THROW and that upon resumption of play we go back to the free throw.

BNR:

I went back and re-read Nevada's post and I think he makes a very valid observation. And though I think that my OP is a valid solution to the situation, I am inclined to agree with both of you.

MTD, Sr.

[crosscountry55]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

In my opinion it was not clear that the FT was going to be unsuccessful at the time the basket broke. Therefore, the game was interrupted during a FT, so that is the POI. I'm having her attempt the FT again after the necessary repairs are made.

Though Nevada and I don't agree on much (), I am with him on this one. Looks like the ball might have had a chance to rattle in had the rim still been there after it glanced off the backboard.

[bainsey]

I say, chose six players and go with 3-on-3 at the other end.

No? Fine. I likely would have gone to the arrow (POI) after the repair, but after reading Nevada's point, I like his idea better. How many times have we seen a successful free throw bounce from the front of the ring?

[jTheUmp]

I think this definitely falls under the "points not covered in the rules" section... I'm going POI during the free throw, and awarding a replacement FT once the rim gets fixed.

[BillyMac]

It's a good thing that none of the rebounders got hit on the head with the rim. The rim, falling from a height of ten feet, would have had a lot of force at impact. Remember your high school physics? Isaac Newton's Second Law Of Motion? F=ma.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

It's a good thing that none of the rebounders got hit on the head with the rim. The rim, falling from a height of ten feet, would have had a lot of force at impact. Remember your high school physics? Isaac Newton's Second Law Of Motion? F=ma.

I sure do remember, Sir Issac consulted with me when he was working on the problem.

But, when it comes to Calculus, the question you must answer is: Newton or Leibniz?

MTD, Sr.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by jTheUmp

I think this definitely falls under the "points not covered in the rules" section... I'm going POI during the free throw, and awarding a replacement FT once the rim gets fixed.

I specifically stayed away from 2-3 because I believe that this situation can be covered using the existing rules.

[crosscountry55]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

It's a good thing that none of the rebounders got hit on the head with the rim. The rim, falling from a height of ten feet, would have had a lot of force at impact. Remember your high school physics? Isaac Newton's Second Law Of Motion? F=ma.

To be more specific, in this case, F=mg, where "g" is approximately 9.8ms^2, the gravitational acceleration of an object in a vacuum near the surface of the earth. But of course it's not a vacuum because there is friction from the air on the way down. Not that the poor girl will give said friction much credit when the rim hits her on the head.

I once majored in physics before I took up basketball officiating.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by crosscountry55

To be more specific, in this case, F=mg, where "g" is approximately 9.8ms^2, the gravitational acceleration of an object in a vacuum near the surface of the earth. But of course it's not a vacuum because there is friction from the air on the way down. Not that the poor girl will give said friction much credit when the rim hits her on the head.

I once majored in physics before I took up basketball officiating.

And I doubt the friction would amount to anything interesting from the velocity the rim might achieve from a height of 10'. From a 100 feet, maybe, but still not too much.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by crosscountry55

To be more specific, in this case, F=mg, where "g" is approximately 9.8ms^2, the gravitational acceleration of an object in a vacuum near the surface of the earth. But of course it's not a vacuum because there is friction from the air on the way down. Not that the poor girl will give said friction much credit when the rim hits her on the head.

I once majored in physics before I took up basketball officiating.

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

And I doubt the friction would amount to anything interesting from the velocity the rim might achieve from a height of 10'. From a 100 feet, maybe, but still not too much.

I'm proud I even understand what you 2 are talking about. 2 years ago I would not have b/c I forgot almost all my science from high school (I graduated in 1982). But in August 2013 I started at attending college on the GI Bill have re-learned all the basics.

[Mark Padgett]