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Definite knowledge. As you can not have definite knowledge of a continuous variable at any time other than when the clock is initially set.

Even if you have a count that is not definite knowledge of the exact time. Even if you seen the clock at 31.8 doesn't mean it wasn't 31.84.
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Definite knowledge. As you can not have definite knowledge of a continuous variable at any time other than when the clock is initially set.

Even if you have a count that is not definite knowledge of the exact time. Even if you seen the clock at 31.8 doesn't mean it wasn't 31.84.
You seem to not understand the difference of definite and accurate/exact. You can very much have definite knowledge of a continuous variable but it may not be precise or accurate. We only are required to have definite knowledge, not accurate/exact knowledge.

Did you get to 4 on three different 5 counts? You definitely did regardless of how accurate that counts are.
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You seem to not understand the difference of definite and accurate/exact. You can very much have definite knowledge of a continuous variable but it may not be precise or accurate. We only are required to have definite knowledge, not accurate/exact knowledge.

Did you get to 4 on three different 5 counts? You definitely did regardless of how accurate that counts are.
Definition of definite.
1.
clearly defined or determined; not vague or general; fixed; precise; exact:
a definite quantity; definite directions.

I understand your point and I have no trouble with if you are at a 4 count being able to take 4 seconds off the clock even though 4 is an approximation. I feel that definite is not the correct term. You do have a definite count but not definite knowledge of how much time to take off. It is just semantics however I feel it could be worded better

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Redundant redundancy

Phrases such as, "there are 2 minutes left, to go, in the fourth quarter, of the game . . ."
How many times does an announcer need to say the same thing, in the same sentence? Duuhhhhh . . .
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Definition of definite.
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clearly defined or determined; not vague or general; fixed; precise; exact:
a definite quantity; definite directions.

I understand your point and I have no trouble with if you are at a 4 count being able to take 4 seconds off the clock even though 4 is an approximation. I feel that definite is not the correct term. You do have a definite count but not definite knowledge of how much time to take off. It is just semantics however I feel it could be worded better
Maybe not by Webster's but by the rule book definition it is.
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