Wrong, not everybody here is assuming that:

Where is it written T's are only for cursing?

1. The comparison is not valid. No one is going to jail over a technical foul.

2. These are not contradictory. One can use magic words without using profanity.

3. It's not our business what was said, I'm sure it's in Hess' report to Adams.

I agree with everything, but I doubt he reports to Adams, he reports to the supervisor of the conference. And I am sure that the situation was addressed in a report like all games at that level likely require.

Peace

That was your reasoning, not mine, in your first response to the OP.

I actually said, "magic words" might have been used. That is not necessarily profanity. The coach could have said, "You........" and then followed it with other words.

Do not try to twist this discussion. There are a lot of reasons coaches get Ts and often it is not what they say, but what they do.

Peace

If there was no profanity, my opinion is that what was done did not warrant the technical. Instead, especially with the past history and being his first game back in 3 years, why not have a 5 second conversation with the coach, tell him that's enough, and give a warning. 4 minutes into the game, optically speaking and perceptually, just looks bad and looks like Hess flat out has something against someone or something.

Maybe it was deserved, but it is truly unfortunate he had to be the one on the sideline at that time.

And you would be fired from even some lower level leagues if you only needed profanity to give a T. For the record at college games, we hear profanity all the time and do not penalize based off of profanity.

Since you are so concerned about when Hess was last there (not like this is a basketball mecca), I am sure Hess' schedule will be just fine not going back in the next 10 years.

Peace

1. The comparison is that there are conflicting sides of what happened. Video and/or audio can, in a lot of cases, determine which side is more truthful.

2. What is in Hess' report is Hess' version of what happened. And if Gottfrieds' report of what happened is totally opposite, then what?

I never said it was OUR business. I believe I said it would be something that could be used by conference assignors and school administration. Nobody should have anything to hide. Why would this be such a big deal?

Then I humbly request that every time I used the word profanity please replace it with 'magic words'.

That way maybe we can get past the 'small picture' and get back to the broader point(s) I was making.....

What can't be disputed is that Gottfried was demonstratedly clapping his hands together, an aspect you have failed to address.

You're the one who contradicted the "magic words" theory with the coach's denial that he used profanity.

Years ago, a man ran a red light and broadsided my wife's car. He challenged the ticket in court and kept insisting that he wasn't speeding.

The defense doesn't make sense in light of the charges. NCSU fans are deluding themselves if they think Hess even cares enough to be out to get them.

At that level, profanity is neither required nor sufficient for a technical foul.

Closest thing in the current books is this, though it is a bit of a stretch...fairly sure there used to be a case that involved an unsporting T on the HC,

Rule: 9.3.3


9.3.3 SITUATION D:

The score is tied 60 to 60 with four seconds remaining in the game. A1 has a fast break and is near the free-throw line on his/her way to an uncontested lay-up. B5 running down the court near the sideline, intentionally runs out of bounds in the hopes of getting a leaving-the-floor violation called.

RULING: B5's intentional violation should be ignored and A1's activity should continue without interruption.

COMMENT: Non-contact, away from the ball, illegal defensive violations (i.e. excessively swinging the elbows, leaving the floor for an unauthorized reason) specifically designed to stop the clock near the end of a period or take away a clear advantageous position by the offense should be temporarily ignored. The defensive team should not benefit from the tactic. If time is not a factor, the defense should be penalized with the violation or a technical foul for unsporting behavior. (10-1-8)

I didn't "see" anything that I deemed T worthy on the tape. Particularly at an NCAA men's level where coaches often walk out onto the floor during dead balls and use profanity at their players and in the direction of officials all the time. To be fair after the first t he said "That's bull$#!&" and there was no reaction so the idea that he's being penalized for profanity is off base anyway. I'm also not considering emphatic clapping in a gym with a few thousand hostile cheering fans to be excessive either though.

Now he could have quietly or even politely call out the integrity of an official. Made a personal remark or refernence. He could have even used any of the non profane magic words "cheater . . . cheating . . .idiot . . .blind . . .etc etc." but they would probably be enough to earn him a T.

You mentioned that I referenced profanity when I did no such thing. I said "magic words."

And even if he did not use profanity, who gives a darn? I have given a coach a T in college and did not use profanity and I never was told he should have used profanity to get a T by anyone. There is no "profanity only" rule in college basketball. At least not where I work and I doubt seriously at that level as well with all the video. Heck the NCAA has made a big deal about coaches boxes and different times.

If you want to get back to the bigger picture, then stop trying to tell us some standard that has never been stated by the NCAA or conference assignors. And an official like Hess I bet knows exactly what he can do and cannot do. He did not get to where he is based on listening to people here on what is appropriate.

Peace

Found it.

Case 10.4.1 F