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[frezer11]

Originally Posted by Rob1968

I'm regularly amazed that some officials have worked games for so long, and haven't grasped the concept that the general-world use of the word "pivot" - meaning to turn or rotate - is not the same as the basketball definition, found in 4-38: " A pivot takes place when a player who is hoolding the ball steps once or more than once, in any direction with the same foot while the other foot, called the pivot foot, is kept at its point of contact with the floor."

Perhaps I shouldn't use the word "pivot" here, but my question is still unanswered, is the non-pivot foot that is in contact with the floor allowed to rotate or twist on the floor, provided it does not lose contact with the floor?

[Rob1968]

Originally Posted by frezer11

Perhaps I shouldn't use the word "pivot" here, but my question is still unanswered, is the non-pivot foot that is in contact with the floor allowed to rotate or twist on the floor, provided it does not lose contact with the floor?

So, the ballhandler, holding the ball, establishes his left foot as his pivot foot, by moving his right foot to another position on the floor. The left foot, (pivot foot) can be turned/pivoted, the right foot can be re-positioned in any manner he wishes, be that lifting it from and re-contacting the floor, twisting, turning, etc.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Rob1968

So, the ballhandler, holding the ball, establishes his left foot as his pivot foot, by moving his right foot to another position on the floor. The left foot, (pivot foot) can be turned/pivoted, the right foot can be re-positioned in any manner he wishes, be that lifting it from and re-contacting the floor, twisting, turning, etc.

And, if the actual pivot foot is lifted, the non-pivot foot may be twisted, rotated, pivoted on as long as the pivot foot itself doesn't come back to the floor....maybe that is what is being asked.

[BigCat]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

And, if the actual pivot foot is lifted, the non-pivot foot may be twisted, rotated, pivoted on as long as the pivot foot itself doesn't come back to the floor....maybe that is what is being asked.

yes, that was the question

[frezer11]

Originally Posted by BigCat

yes. player can't drag it or spin it to another location. when the pivot foot is on the ground and player steps with other foot in different directions the pivot foot spins but remains in contact with floor in same location. that other foot can do the same in this situation.

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

And, if the actual pivot foot is lifted, the non-pivot foot may be twisted, rotated, pivoted on as long as the pivot foot itself doesn't come back to the floor....maybe that is what is being asked.

Yup, that is what I was asking about, and that's what I thought, but I guess I'd never really discussed that point specifically. Thank you!

[so cal lurker]

Originally Posted by frezer11

Yup, that is what I was asking about, and that's what I thought, but I guess I'd never really discussed that point specifically. Thank you!

If you think about it, you see it all the time -- for example, picture a hook shot and the twist of the foot . . .

[BigCat]

Originally Posted by frezer11

Perhaps I shouldn't use the word "pivot" here, but my question is still unanswered, is the non-pivot foot that is in contact with the floor allowed to rotate or twist on the floor, provided it does not lose contact with the floor?

yes. player can't drag it or spin it to another location. when the pivot foot is on the ground and player steps with other foot in different directions the pivot foot spins but remains in contact with floor in same location. that other foot can do the same in this situation.