Womens UCONN/UW Greenbay-Table Crash (Video)
 

Video Request: UCONN/WISC Green Bay..SportsChannel NY..12:37 2ND

Loose Ball Hard Crash into the table. Who should Foul be on? or no foul?

Thanks!

Here's the video:

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The way Geno reacted, I'm assuming the foul was called on Stewart.

I can be convinced either way as I think the loose ball fouls are the hardest calls for me to make personally, but I think I would call a foul on white (you guys are right) for going into and through the white player. If she just goes for the ball, it's nothing but it looks like,tome that she initiates contact with the white player to prevent her from getting the ball.

The thing that bugs me about these plays is if you do all a foul the coach ALWAYS says, "It's a loose ball. There can't be a foul!!"

What pearls of wisdom do you all have for adjudicating these plays properly and what do you say to coaches who think this?

I highly suggest that you take another look at the video. Blue is on her feet and running in a straight line toward the ball and has the more advantageous route and position relative to White as they both advance toward the ball. White dives and takes Blue's legs out from under her. Blocking or pushing foul on White.

MTD, Sr.

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White foul
 

I can't believe this is even a debate. A player who leaves her feet and makes contact doesn't have legal position, period.

Good thing Trail came 50 feet to get this. :rolleyes:

Use the rulebook verbiage. Keep it to five words or fewer (when possible).

As far as adjudicating (I think that's what you meant when you said "adjusting"), watch the players, not the ball.

Oh -- I agree it's a foul on white.

I have a foul on white, if a foul is called.

What does the distance have to do with anything? I can see the sun and it's 93 million miles away, after all.

I think it's a fantastic piece of officiating. The official on the ballside of the floor was pinned inside and had no idea what happened there.

BTW, that was the center making the call -- the L rotated over and put the old C / new T in a horrible position.

An excellent example on how to be insightful using a useless scientific fact.

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I can see the Andromeda Galaxy and it's 2.25 million light years away. I eat a lot of carrots. Did you ever see a rabbit wearing glasses?

Scientist says that he's going to become famous by being the first person to land on the Sun. Second scientist says that that's impossible because it's too hot on the Sun. First scientist says that he's figured out a way around that problem; he's going to land on the Sun at night.

An easy foul on White diving into the legs of Blue.

You mean after meandering around the middle of the paint for a while?

I'm a bit slow -- can't tell if you're being sarcastic. I guess I should be impressed by that alone.

Truth is, sometimes the official the farthest away has the best angle. He closed distance and sold the call.

Yesterday, I had a 7th grade girls game where the visiting coach wanted a "loose ball foul" called. If only such a thing existed in the NFHS rule book. :D

On-topic, I'd have a foul on white as well. It's possible the L & T might be straightlined through no fault of their own to be able to make that call. I agree with Rich's comments about angle and closing distance to sell the call.

I wouldn't say the L rotating put the C/T in a horrible position. She would have been in that horrible position even if the L had not rotated. She got screened by the players (even got run into) and whether she was supposed to be C or T, she would have had no look.

It was good of the new C to recognize the T was pinned and prevented from seeing the play. Whether we agree or not with the actual call, it was on the T to cover it.

First, what does that have to do with this play?

Second, it isn't even correct.

Camron, show me a rule set where a player with no foot on the floor that creates contact is considered legal. You cannot undercut a player who is going after a loose ball, can you?

You didn't say "creates" contact before...you said makes contact. Even so, it is still incorrect. Two players, from equally favorable positions going for a lose ball....feet on the floor is irrelevant.

I do have a foul on white in this play, but not for having no feet on the floor. Blue beat her to the spot...the positions were not equally favorable.

Sorry, I was really thinking on a different wavelength -- horrible position for a trail, is what I meant. Completely agree with your post.

I was being sarcastic bro.

Don't tase me.

Actually, there was no foul called on the play.

Easy foul call on white. Glad one of the crew came to get it.

You must be looking at a different play. The official across the court from the collision came running across with a whistle and a fist in the air.

The foul is on the BLUE player...and it's not even close.

Any player who is running. There are cases where they may "create" contact, by some definitions, and be legal.
Any player with LGP who is jumping.

Off the top of my head anyway.

*whuh??

He's good for troll type comment about once a month.

Are you talking about Blue #4 who might have made a little contact with the white player before running into the C??

If not, then you really need to stop eating those mushrooms growing in your backyard. They aren't what you think they are...

Stunned this went 3 pages. Simple call that shouldn't have even been a question. Foul on white. All day, every day.

:D

That's just his twocentsworth.

it "looks" like the blue player has a "direct line" to the ball ONLY because of the camera angle….(if the camera was behind the white player - people would have a different opinion).

White player gets to the ball first and and pushed/contacted from behind by the blue player = foul on blue. It's a fairly typical play that occurs during a loose ball….

So you were serious...holy sh!t.

It is a fairly typical play that occurs during a loose ball that you obviously get wrong on a regular basis.

Apparently his angle is from under a bridge.