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jeremy341a Thu Nov 20, 2014 10:32am

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Originally Posted by biggravy (Post 944166)
If C would have had the illegal screen at 1:15 game time, 0:13 video time none of the rest would have mattered.

The only screen I see then is the one at the top of the key and there isn't any contact on that one. Is this the one you are referring too?

rockyroad Thu Nov 20, 2014 11:11am

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Originally Posted by biggravy (Post 944166)
If C would have had the illegal screen at 1:15 game time, 0:13 video time none of the rest would have mattered.

What???

You want an illegal screen call on a play where there is no contact at all? The Stanford defender ran around the screen.

reffish Thu Nov 20, 2014 11:18am

The lead may or may not have put the crew in the best position for this play, however, the C is responsible for the call on the shot, it is her primary. She takes a step down when the player gathers the ball and turns away from the C to shoot. I believe she would have a more open look if she had stepped to her right.

LSCoach Thu Nov 20, 2014 11:20am

I think the screen being referenced happened before the screen you guys are talking about. The screen #23 set after passing the ball. Looks like she slides at the last minute to set it.

Sco53 Thu Nov 20, 2014 12:31pm

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Originally Posted by LSCoach (Post 944179)
I think the screen being referenced happened before the screen you guys are talking about. The screen #23 set after passing the ball. Looks like she slides at the last minute to set it.

+1 illegal screen by #23

rockyroad Thu Nov 20, 2014 01:36pm

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Originally Posted by LSCoach (Post 944179)
I think the screen being referenced happened before the screen you guys are talking about. The screen #23 set after passing the ball. Looks like she slides at the last minute to set it.

I can buy that...except it happened at 0:11 in the video and 1:18 on the game clock - which is not the screen that was pointed out.

Camron Rust Thu Nov 20, 2014 05:51pm

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Originally Posted by rockyroad (Post 944195)
I can buy that...except it happened at 0:11 in the video and 1:18 on the game clock - which is not the screen that was pointed out.

I think he was just sloppy with noting the times. There were two illegal screens on this play...1:18 and again at 1:11. But the one at 1:15 was completely clean, no judgement needed.

Multiple Sports Thu Nov 20, 2014 06:41pm

No Way !!!!!
 
Go to any D1 try out camps ( men or women ) and call those plays illegal screens and you will have just made an official donation to that supervisor's beach house !!!!! Even if they are illegal ( and I don't think they are ) in neither case did they free up a jump shooter for an open J.......... I need something more than that for a game like that !!!!

Camron Rust Thu Nov 20, 2014 07:42pm

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Originally Posted by Multiple Sports (Post 944229)
Go to any D1 try out camps ( men or women ) and call those plays illegal screens and you will have just made an official donation to that supervisor's beach house !!!!! Even if they are illegal ( and I don't think they are ) in neither case did they free up a jump shooter for an open J.......... I need something more than that for a game like that !!!!

Not sure what games you're watching. I see them get called often in D1 games. Not all the time, but enough.

I'd most likely pass on the one at 1:18. Is it illegal, technically, but one that could be left uncalled. However, the one at 1:11 is no where close to being legal. Even if it doesn't free up an immediate shot, it is illegal play that took the defender off the player she was guarding. The screener was running towards the screened player all the way to contact.

Now, the other part....being 1:11 left in overtime, if we've let screening similar to that go all game, that is not getting called.

bob jenkins Thu Nov 20, 2014 08:54pm

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Originally Posted by Multiple Sports (Post 944229)
Go to any D1 try out camps ( men or women ) and call those plays illegal screens and you will have just made an official donation to that supervisor's beach house !!!!! Even if they are illegal ( and I don't think they are ) in neither case did they free up a jump shooter for an open J.......... I need something more than that for a game like that !!!!

Illegal screens are a big POE / topic in NCAAW this year. (I didn't re-watch the video to have an opinion on these specific items)

JetMetFan Fri Nov 21, 2014 05:01am

I'm with Camron: If any of them was going to be called it was going to be the one at 1:11. They've been getting on us the past two seasons about illegal screens when the dribbler hands off to a teammate and then keeps moving into the defender who'd been guarding that teammate.

I'm also with Camron in that if it hadn't been called all night, 1:11 left in OT probably wasn't a good time to start.

twocentsworth Sun Nov 23, 2014 10:48pm

In video play #1, the shooter was ABSOLUTELY fouled…looks like L and C were straight lined and the Trail (who had the best view) should have gotten this if he saw the play.

A retired NBA official-friend of mine calls this the "Moses" play. The Red Sea "parted" so that the T had the perfect/best look at the play…come and get that if you see it...

johnny d Mon Nov 24, 2014 01:05am

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Originally Posted by twocentsworth (Post 944507)

A retired NBA official-friend of mine calls this the "Moses" play. The Red Sea "parted" so that the T had the perfect/best look at the play…come and get that if you see it...


Just what the world needs, another Ron Olesiak disciple.

BigCat Mon Nov 24, 2014 01:08am

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Originally Posted by twocentsworth (Post 944507)
In video play #1, the shooter was ABSOLUTELY fouled…looks like L and C were straight lined and the Trail (who had the best view) should have gotten this if he saw the play.

A retired NBA official-friend of mine calls this the "Moses" play. The Red Sea "parted" so that the T had the perfect/best look at the play…come and get that if you see it...

I'd probably let Moses take it😕

AremRed Mon Nov 24, 2014 01:32am

Lead should be rotating here. Pregame should be don't rotate under 3 seconds not 5. A lot can happen in 5 seconds and Lead has to be over there to referee that play.


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