2014-15 Interps

[Freddy]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

3.5.4 SITUATION, RULING Correction: illegal equipment in (a); the blue headbands and wristbands do not match the predominant color of the uniform (white).

Then later on . . .

SITUATION 6: Substitute A6 attempts to enter the game wearing a headband and wristband that are not white, black, beige or a dominant color of the uniform...

Could a person argue that "THE predominant color of the uniform" can only be one color, whereas "A dominant color of the uniform" could be -- oh, say, any "single solid school color" that happens also to appear on the uniform, which would make it the same as last year's Fashion Police rule, before the unannounced change this year?

We couldn't be so fortunate.

Wish they woulda come right out and retracted this "predominant color of the uniform" and retain last year's "single solid school color", just to make it easy on us.

If those in charge are going to convey interpretations to clarify things, they should not say "dominant" when the original was "predominant." IMO.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Freddy

Could a person argue that "THE predominant color of the uniform" can only be one color, whereas "A dominant color of the uniform" could be -- oh, say, any "single solid school color" that happens also to appear on the uniform, which would make it the same as last year's Fashion Police rule, before the unannounced change this year?

We couldn't be so fortunate.

Wish they woulda come right out and retracted this "predominant color of the uniform" and retain last year's "single solid school color", just to make it easy on us.

If those in charge are going to convey interpretations to clarify things, they should not say "dominant" when the original was "predominant." IMO.

Sure.

And which color is "predominant" if the team wears white jerseys and blue shorts?

And, what's the difference between (long) "compression shorts" and (short) "tights"? Why can one extend below the knee, but the other can't?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

And which color is "predominant" if the team wears white jerseys and blue shorts?

Since players can all legally wear different color shorts, or different color long pants, or different color skirts, or different color kilts, then I would think that we should leave the shorts color out of this equation.

[Moosie74]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Sure.

And which color is "predominant" if the team wears white jerseys and blue shorts?

And, what's the difference between (long) "compression shorts" and (short) "tights"? Why can one extend below the knee, but the other can't?

At our interpenetration meeting last night it was decided predominant color was the main color of the jersey so in your case, white.

And also told that there was no difference in shorts and tights

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Moosie74

At our interpenetration meeting last night it was decided predominant color was the main color of the jersey so in your case, white.

And also told that there was no difference in shorts and tights

Both logical conclusions, and I hope our state comes out with something similar. It would be even nicer if FED just came out with such wording -- until they (or the state, or, I guess in some areas, the association) does so, there will be confusion -- especially given the specific FED case play ruling compression shorts illegal (in some instances)

[Freddy]

Originally Posted by Moosie74

At our interpenetration meeting last night . . .

[junruh07]

If the color restriction change was by itself in a vacuum, I would be opposed to it. Since they made leg sleeves and arm sleeves legal, I think these items need to be the have tighter color restrictions, otherwise all the color could be confusing. (eg. Home team in white, visitor in red. A home team player is wearing red tights and red sleeves on both arms. That's a lot of red on a white player) This isn't an issue with head bands and wrist bands. However, I am glad they changed the head band rule for the sake of consistency.

[OKREF]

Originally Posted by junruh07

If the color restriction change was by itself in a vacuum, I would be opposed to it. Since they made leg sleeves and arm sleeves legal, I think these items need to be the have tighter color restrictions, otherwise all the color could be confusing. (eg. Home team in white, visitor in red. A home team player is wearing red tights and red sleeves on both arms. That's a lot of red on a white player) This isn't an issue with head bands and wrist bands. However, I am glad they changed the head band rule for the sake of consistency.

The home team wouldn't be allowed to wear red in your situation. They could wear black, white, beige. That's it. Predominant is easier than single school color. Since home teams must always wear white, it makes the choices easy.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by OKREF

The home team wouldn't be allowed to wear red in your situation. They could wear black, white, beige. That's it. Predominant is easier than single school color. Since home teams must always wear white, it makes the choices easy.

While true, the situation would still be present if the home team wears white uniforms with black sleeves while the visiting team wears black uniformw with white sleeves.

While I get why the NFHS has the rule this way (the undergarments are typicaly provided by the player, and the NFHS doesn't want to force the player to buy two or three sets), I do wish the restrictions were tighter.

(And, I wish the NCAA restrictions were tighter as well)

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by junruh07

I think these items need to be the have tighter color restrictions, otherwise all the color could be confusing.

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

I do wish the restrictions were tighter.

Here in Connecticut we, and our state interscholastic sports governing body, decided to combine the NFHS color restrictions on headbands/wristbands, with the NFHS color restrictions on arm sleeves/leg sleeves, making our color restrictions more restrictive than the NFHS restrictions: Head and wrist bands, along with knee and arm sleeves, must all be the same color.

This really cuts down on the color choices, especially for the home team. Home team: white undershirt, and white, beige, or black, head, and wrist bands, and knee, and arm sleeves. Road team: undershirt the same color of the jersey; head, and wrist bands, and knee, and arm sleeves the same color as the jersey, or white, beige, or black. Al the players on the same team must wear the same colors.

Easy for the coaches to teach the players. Easy for the players to understand. Easy for the officials (those that care) to enforce.

[billyu2]

Originally Posted by Freddy

Could a person argue that "THE predominant color of the uniform" can only be one color, whereas "A dominant color of the uniform" could be -- oh, say, any "single solid school color" that happens also to appear on the uniform, which would make it the same as last year's Fashion Police rule, before the unannounced change this year?

We couldn't be so fortunate.

Wish they woulda come right out and retracted this "predominant color of the uniform" and retain last year's "single solid school color", just to make it easy on us.

If those in charge are going to convey interpretations to clarify things, they should not say "dominant" when the original was "predominant." IMO.

For those officiating in Ohio: At our OHSAA rules interpreters meeting this past Tuesday it was agreed Ohio will stay with the previous wording in the rule - "single solid school color." Your local rules interpreter should confirm that at your local rules meeting.

[Freddy]

Originally Posted by billyu2

For those officiating in Ohio: At our OHSAA rules interpreters meeting this past Tuesday it was agreed Ohio will stay with the previous wording in the rule - "single solid school color." Your local rules interpreter should confirm that at your local rules meeting.

If what Ohio did had a "Like" button I would click on it.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Freddy

If what Ohio did had a "Like" button I would click on it.

I actually like the new "predominant uniform (jersey) color" rule better than previous Fashion Police rules. There are now fewer colors in play, which makes it easier for coaches, and players (and maybe some officials), to understand.

We've actually gone one step further here in the Constitution State, making the rule even more restrictive by combining the headband/wristband rule and the arm sleeve/leg sleeve rule. In Connecticut, head and wrist bands, along with leg and arm sleeves, must all be the same color.

[hoopsaddict]

The draw back to "single solid school color" is that how do the officials be certain what colors fall into the school color category for all the different schools the officials work.

[Freddy]

Originally Posted by hoopsaddict

The draw back to "single solid school color" is that how do the officials be certain what colors fall into the school color category for all the different schools the officials work.

A. Never saw a single solid school color not represented on either the uniform or warmups or cheerleaders...ever.

B. Never had a problem last year when they changed it to single solid school color...never once. It was a beautiful thing. If it ain't broke, there's no sense changing it to something that will make it more difficult, which it will be this year. The home team with white jerseys cannot wear it's purple or blue or red now. And they did quite commonly last year. Quite commonly around here.