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Slight lapse of focus....
Got this from the Basketball Referee Facebook group. It speaks for itself.
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saved by the bell ... I wonder how long that would have gone on for if the quarter hadn't expired.
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What is FIBA's protocol for a wrong basket?
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Reset to ~5.6 seconds, blue ball?
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16.2.2
If a player accidentally scores a field goal in his team’s basket, the goal counts 2 points and shall be recorded as having been scored by the captain of the opposing team on the playing court. |
Before The Buzzer ???
Backcourt violation?
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Had this happen in a BV game two seasons ago ('12-13) after a missed FT. B1 got the rebound and - realizing he was wide open - scored into the wrong basket. Happily my partner and I shut it down before things got completely out of hand, i.e., before Team A completed the throw-in. I even remembered to tell the scorer the goal wasn't credited to anyone on Team A! :D |
If the player in white heaves it toward the wrong basket and the buzzer goes off while the ball is in the air does it count if it goes in?
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I know you know the answer to this. |
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I don't care what the book says to do after the goal is scored in the wrong basket. Stop play, award the goal properly at the table, and have an endline throw-in to the correct team. That's going to clean up all the extra confusion.
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Archives ???
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This (below) is as close as I can find: A SPECIFIC UNSPORTING ACT 10.1.8 SITUATION: Immediately following a goal or free throw by Team A, A1 inbounds the ball to A2 and A2 subsequently throws the ball through A’s basket. RULING: The following procedure has been adopted to handle this specific situation if it is recognized before the opponents gain control or before the next throw-in begins: (a) charge Team A with an unsporting technical foul; (b) assess a delay-of-game warning for interfering with the ball after a goal; (c) cancel the field goal; (d) cancel any common foul(s) committed and any non-flagrant foul against A2 in the act of shooting; and (e) put “consumed” time back on the clock. COMMENT: If there is no doubt the throw-in was a result of confusion, the entire procedure would be followed except no unsporting team technical foul would be charged. A team technical would be assessed if the team had received a previous delay warning. This procedure shall not be used in any other throw-in situation in which an official administers the throw-in and a mistake allows the wrong team to inbound the ball. (4-47-3; 7-6-6; 10-1-5d) |
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Actually, I see two different ways to look at it. What are you saying? |
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The example given is at the beginning of the game. Why would that not apply if it happened at some other point? What do you do if you discover in the midst of the proceedings that the teams are going the wrong way and you don't know when they started?
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I can see a TO in the middle of a quarter, and as part of the ensuing throw-in, the players all start going the wrong direction. Here, I'd let it stand, and fix it when discovered.
I think it needs to be that the referees are also just thinking that everything is normal, and that it's after some break in the action. Or, use 2-3 (or whatever it is) to decide. |
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Let's Go To The Videotape ...
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properly uses the east goal and the home team the west goal. The officials, by mistake, allow the jumpers to face the wrong direction to start the game. A1 controls the tap by tapping the ball back to A2. A2, realizing that he/she had warmed up at the basket behind A1, dribbles to that basket and scores an uncontested basket. RULING: Score the basket for Team A. The officials should stop the game and emphasize to both teams the proper direction. The mistake is an official's error by allowing A1 and B1 to face the wrong direction; not a correctable error. 5.2.1 SITUATION F: During the pregame practice period, the visiting team properly uses the east goal and the home team the west goal. The officials, by mistake, allow the jumpers to face the wrong direction to start the game. Several baskets are scored before it is recognized that both teams are throwing the ball into the opponent’s basket. RULING: All points scored count as if the teams had gone the right direction and scored in their own basket. Once the mistake is recognized, play shall continue with each team attempting to score in its own basket. (4-5-4) |
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And again I ask, so in the OP, you are going to the scorer's table and making sure they awarded 2 points to Blue for the basket they made into White's basket? |
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You stop play when you realize what's happening. The guys in the OP obviously didn't realize what was happening. If A gets a shot here that goes in after the buzzer, there's no doubt in my mind they would have signaled it good. After all this, it comes to light what had happened, you go back and take the points off the board and credit the basket at the other end to white? I don't think you can do that.
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You and I may be talking about different portions of the play. |
The ball goes through white's basket so 2 points for white, especially since this is not a case of an error on a throw in. I see it no differently than if a player got confused after a steal or in one of those crazy hypothetical plays that are occassionally posted here that have a pass some how go into a basket. Its still two points.
But, when white grabs the ball for the ensuing throw in I stop the game (hopefully I noticed) because it should be blues ball after the made basket. I would not issue a tech per 10.1.8 for delay because the goal was nit the result of a try by white before they and they did not attempt a try at their basket. If everyone is confused then stop the game as soon as you realize there is n issue. If they went back and forth for a few minutes before anyone notices, I don't see why you would remove any points scored unless you can exactly pin point what the score and time remaining was. If you take away the points then you should add back the time. |
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Here's my post 10 years ago.http://forum.officiating.com/basketb...ng-basket.html |
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