Clippers vs Thunder Game 5 Clips (Video)

[Raymond]

1. No foul on Ibaka.

2. Barnes fouled Jackson, but I can see how it was missed.

3. Easy foul call on the 3-pointer.


CP3 was fouled on the last play of the game, need that replay. The outside defender (Jackson??), hit CP3 on the right bicep, causing him to fumble the ball.

[A Pennsylvania Coach]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

3. Easy foul call on the 3-pointer.

What did the defender do wrong?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by A Pennsylvania Coach

What did the defender do wrong?

Hit the shooter on the elbow when the ball was still in the hand.

[Sharpshooternes]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Hit the shooter on the elbow when the ball was still in the hand.

But the defender was straight up and the shooter created the contact. This is a prime example of the play I was talking about in the other thread.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes

But the defender was straight up and the shooter created the contact. This is a prime example of the play I was talking about in the other thread.

This play is a prime example of a text book foul on a jump shooter. CP3 flexed his hand into BW's elbow.

[A Pennsylvania Coach]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

This play is a prime example of a text book foul on a jump shooter. CP3 flexed his hand into BW's elbow.

The defender went straight up and had his arms straight up, which is what I saw last night. On a further viewing of the slow motion above, I see a little wrist flick on the elbow that I didn't see before. I believe I was wrong and that it was a good call.

[JRutledge]

Play #1: Foul. Not vertical defender makes contact to make a block.

Play #2: Not a foul, contact with the hand while on the ball. Maybe NBA rules are differnet, but this is not a foul at the NF and NCAA level.

Play #3: Paul was not vertical and taps elbow. And it is clear this was a foul by how badly the result of the shot. Westbrook basically air balled the shot.

Peace

[APG]

Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes

But the defender was straight up and the shooter created the contact. This is a prime example of the play I was talking about in the other thread.

If the defender goes straight up, there's no way he contacts the shooter's elbow the way he does.

[MathReferee]

I am a completely biased long-time Clippers fan, so my views are tainted.

1) Ibaka play was a foul. Both C and L have the foul call and agree that it seemed like a difficult angle from the L.

2) Apparently the OOB call is correct based on NBA rules. I am not sure it was the contact with the left hand that made the ball go OOB though as I see Jackson's right hand causing it to go OOB, but I have no clue how that rule is worded/written so that may be irrelevant.

3) The foul on the three is tough to swallow. I see a vertical defensive player and contact only occurs due to the offensive player's motion. I could see a foul if Paul was moving into Westbrook at all, but since I see him as vertical, I do not see a foul.

4) Regardless, Paul was fouled on the last play, but neither C, nor L were in a good position to see it. L was the only one that could see, but Ibaka stepped right in front.

Again, completely biased and they never should have been in that position if they could have held on to the ball, not set an illegal screen, and played better transition defense at the end.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by MathReferee

I am a completely biased long-time Clippers fan, so my views are tainted.
...
3) The foul on the three is tough to swallow. I see a vertical defensive player and contact only occurs due to the offensive player's motion. I could see a foul if Paul was moving into Westbrook at all, but since I see him as vertical, I do not see a foul.
....

#3 is a text book foul on a jump shooter, and the kinda of pickup by an official that will get you positive feedback in camp.

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by MathReferee

4) Regardless, Paul was fouled on the last play.

Say what???

Anyone got video of the last play where the OKC defender pokes the ball away from Paul who is trying to go up against Ibaka? I sure don't remember there being any foul on that play.

[MathReferee]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

Say what???

Anyone got video of the last play where the OKC defender pokes the ball away from Paul who is trying to go up against Ibaka? I sure don't remember there being any foul on that play.

Again, Clippers fanboy tainted goggles on, but I am pretty sure that in the one replay shown right after the play that there was contact on the forearm and not any contact on the ball. Seeing that no one else is really talking about that at all, then I could be wrong.

I will give in and agree Paul was not vertical on the Westbrook shot and it was a foul.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

Say what???

Anyone got video of the last play where the OKC defender pokes the ball away from Paul who is trying to go up against Ibaka? I sure don't remember there being any foul on that play.

I'm waiting for the video, b/c I immediately thought it was a foul from the first replay on TNT.

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

...

CP3 was fouled on the last play of the game, need that replay. The outside defender (Jackson??), hit CP3 on the right bicep, causing him to fumble the ball.

[dahoopref]

Originally Posted by MathReferee

I am a completely biased long-time Clippers fan, so my views are tainted.

3) The foul on the three is tough to swallow. I see a vertical defensive player and contact only occurs due to the offensive player's motion. I could see a foul if Paul was moving into Westbrook at all, but since I see him as vertical, I do not see a foul.

CP initiates contact (even if so slight) on RW's arm. CP did a similar walk under to Stephen Curry in the previous series where no foul was called. Perhaps this play was reviewed by the crew to watch for such actions.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by dahoopref

CP initiates contact (even if so slight) on RW's arm. CP did a similar walk under to Stephen Curry in the previous series where no foul was called. Perhaps this play was reviewed by the crew to watch for such actions.

I do not see the two plays as the same. The no-call against GS was a flop too. I think when a player flops, it often gets an official to try not to fall for the overreaction to the play. Westbrook stood tall and clearly shot an air ball. He did not exaggerate contact or act like he was killed. I know I see many of these passed on a lot when players act like a little arm contact made them fall to the floor.

I am sure the first play did get talked about and might have been suggested by the NBA that it was a foul missed. But I think the flop did not help the case for GT to have a foul called.

Peace