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Old Wed Apr 30, 2014, 12:33pm
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yelling at the table

Did you hear how he yelled at the table and scolded them? Would any of you ever use that tone with the table?
I know I would not allow myself to act that way.

NBA vs NFHS, not the same for sure, but I was surprised.
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Old Wed Apr 30, 2014, 01:15pm
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Obviously, his play-calling and focus are of a high level, but what baffles me is that he seems to struggle with people skills. Most officials who make it to the upper levels are top-notch in that area.
He certainly was disrespectful to the table crew.
If the foul count was so important to him (and I agree that it matters to the teams for game strategy), then either he should have looked prior to administering the FT or his partner who is standing in front of the table should have handled it. That guy is an NBA official as well.
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Old Wed Apr 30, 2014, 01:40pm
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Joey Crawford is from the era of many that people love to talk about the antics of Earl Strom or others that were colorful and acted in ways that were totally different than they are today. Just listen to old NBA tapes of interactions with Referees and these guys said all kinds of things.

Crawford entered the league in 1977. If the NBA did not like his antics, they would stop giving him games or they would not put him in the playoffs and Finals. He is no different than many that started at a similar time or well over 25 years that did not completely change with the times or standards that officials even when I started were not asked to do. And I also think Crawford knows his place and what he can do. I actually see very little wrong with his actions and think this entire idea that he cannot stop KD from shooting is stupid and silly when there is a mistake about to be made. And I bet JC was dealing with a constant problem. His body language was not perfect, but we do not know what was said either way. And most of all, this was the home team's people, so shame on them if they got something wrong that hurt their team.

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Old Wed Apr 30, 2014, 02:20pm
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I did not see the game, but heard about this incident this morning on a local sports talk radio show.

They said that the Scorers table and Crew in OKC is one of the worst in the league and several NBA officials have complained to their superiors regarding the table and crew. Common themes are that the table is slow to respond and becomes too engaged in the game as fans instead of officials.

From what I understand the foul that KD was shooting free throws for put OKC in the bonus. The table side official was telling the table several times during the first free throw to correct the scoreboard to indicate that OKC was in the bonus. He was basically ignored. This is when Crawford stepped in and laid down the law. Unfortuneately, he had already given the ball to Durant for the second free throw and had to get it back.
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Old Wed Apr 30, 2014, 02:39pm
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Did you hear how he yelled at the table and scolded them? Would any of you ever use that tone with the table?
I know I would not allow myself to act that way.

NBA vs NFHS, not the same for sure, but I was surprised.
That's what stood out to me. Why not approach the table if there was confusion rather than screaming at them in such a manner?
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Old Wed Apr 30, 2014, 02:48pm
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That's what stood out to me. Why not approach the table if there was confusion rather than screaming at them in such a manner?
Because - according to reports - one of the officials had already asked/directed them to correct the error repeatedly. At that point, stop being polite and tell them to fix it and fix it right now - which is what Crawford did.
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Old Wed Apr 30, 2014, 10:48pm
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Because - according to reports - one of the officials had already asked/directed them to correct the error repeatedly. At that point, stop being polite and tell them to fix it and fix it right now - which is what Crawford did.
He should have, and could have waited until the free throw was over, especially considering Durant already had the ball. Crawford just tries to put on a show and always seems to have to make a scene about everything.
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Old Wed Apr 30, 2014, 11:21pm
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He should have, and could have waited until the free throw was over, especially considering Durant already had the ball. Crawford just tries to put on a show and always seems to have to make a scene about everything.
And if teams think the foul situation is different, then what? What if a foul took place with a team thinking they were not in the bonus?

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Old Wed Apr 30, 2014, 11:48pm
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And if teams think the foul situation is different, then what? What if a foul took place with a team thinking they were not in the bonus?
What if the scoreboard is wrong about the score and a team thinks it is behind when the game is actually tied and commits a foul?
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Old Wed Apr 30, 2014, 11:54pm
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What if the scoreboard is wrong about the score and a team thinks it is behind when the game is actually tied and commits a foul?
That would be a protest in the making...that would have a high chance of being upheld.
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Old Thu May 01, 2014, 01:57am
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He should have, and could have waited until the free throw was over, especially considering Durant already had the ball. Crawford just tries to put on a show and always seems to have to make a scene about everything.
Wow...just...wow.
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He should have, and could have waited until the free throw was over, especially considering Durant already had the ball. Crawford just tries to put on a show and always seems to have to make a scene about everything.
What if Memphis wanted to run a quick throw-in and rush the ball up the court after the made free throw to catch OKC off-guard on defense? So it's alright to interrupt that opportunity?

All calling the ball back from the FT shooter does is make him start his routine over again, a routine he's done thousands of times in his career. This "icing" whining is so freaking funny.
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Old Thu May 01, 2014, 10:36am
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What if Memphis wanted to run a quick throw-in and rush the ball up the court after the made free throw to catch OKC off-guard on defense? So it's alright to interrupt that opportunity?

All calling the ball back from the FT shooter does is make him start his routine over again, a routine he's done thousands of times in his career. This "icing" whining is so freaking funny.
The issue to me isn't the potential icing. I think that's a weak excuse. They aren't running a quick inbounds play, they are going to call time out and advance it up. To me the issue is Crawfords antics.
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Old Thu May 01, 2014, 07:21am
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He should have, and could have waited until the free throw was over, especially considering Durant already had the ball. Crawford just tries to put on a show and always seems to have to make a scene about everything.

What happens if there's a miss? Are you going to stop play right away to fix the board? What happens if the FT is made but Memphis is leaking a guy down the court hoping to catch OKC off guard and for an easy two...yet you blew your whistle and stopped play because you didn't take care of business before hand? If you stop the play on a made FT, you allow the defense to set up the defense rather than the offense being able to get the ball in quick and push the pace and in doing so, set up a potential mismatch because the defense didn't get back quickly. What if a team carries out a strategy due to the misinformation on the board (commits a foul/plays out a possession)?

So many scenarios that can be affected by not taking care of this right away...and yet people are concerned about the league MVP and excellent FT shooter at 87 percent being "iced."
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What happens if there's a miss? Are you going to stop play right away to fix the board? What happens if the FT is made but Memphis is leaking a guy down the court hoping to catch OKC off guard and for an easy two...yet you blew your whistle and stopped play because you didn't take care of business before hand? If you stop the play on a made FT, you allow the defense to set up the defense rather than the offense being able to get the ball in quick and push the pace and in doing so, set up a potential mismatch because the defense didn't get back quickly. What if a team carries out a strategy due to the misinformation on the board (commits a foul/plays out a possession)?

So many scenarios that can be affected by not taking care of this right away...and yet people are concerned about the league MVP and excellent FT shooter at 87 percent being "iced."

Yabut...you know that Joey Crawford. Always wanting to make a scene and be the "star" when he is on the court.

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