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Old Tue Apr 08, 2014, 10:43am
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Then what was the reason as he had a good year except for the issue at Cinn.? He lost a ton of weight and for the most part stayed out of trouble except for his Hollywood shoes?
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Then what was the reason as he had a good year except for the issue at Cinn.? He lost a ton of weight and for the most part stayed out of trouble except for his Hollywood shoes?
Maybe they wanted to give someone else a chance? Is that possible that there does not have to be a "reason" that someone does not get picked? I know other guys that wore black shoes and did not go as far as they have in the past that John Adams appears to like.

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Old Tue Apr 08, 2014, 10:48am
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Then what was the reason as he had a good year except for the issue at Cinn.? He lost a ton of weight and for the most part stayed out of trouble except for his Hollywood shoes?

I don't know, maybe the officials that worked the game were the names on the balls that came out of the lottery machine when Adams was choosing who was going to work each round. Or perhaps, and this is just a long shot, the officials chosen were higher rated.
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Old Tue Apr 08, 2014, 10:51am
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Personally, I think it's idiotic that people speculate on this stuff. Who knows why? Why don't you pick up the phone and call Adams and ask him?

I also wouldn't mind seeing more than one new official in the batch of 10 chosen. I'm sure that they could assign one new person per on-floor crew plus a new alternate and nobody would know or care. They do it how they want to, however.

It is the main reason that at many different levels (including HS) that it's hard to break through and get that first big game. Lots of qualified guys will never get that shot.
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John Adams' mantra for assigning is simple: "I'm going to assign the best available official that I have to the game".

Technically speaking, the 10 officials assigned to The Final Four are selected/approved by the NCAA D1 Men's Basketball Committee. Realistically speaking, the 10 officials are the highest rated officials by John Adams and his observers during the course of the tournament.

Why in the world would Adams assign a "lower rated" official to The Final Four simply to give "a new guy a chance"? That's a quick way to lose his job......
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John Adams' mantra for assigning is simple: "I'm going to assign the best available official that I have to the game".

Technically speaking, the 10 officials assigned to The Final Four are selected/approved by the NCAA D1 Men's Basketball Committee. Realistically speaking, the 10 officials are the highest rated officials by John Adams and his observers during the course of the tournament.

Why in the world would Adams assign a "lower rated" official to The Final Four simply to give "a new guy a chance"? That's a quick way to lose his job......
Ratings are subjective. One could argue that those same officials are rated highest because Adams subconsciously makes the criteria fit those officials that he likes the most.
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Old Tue Apr 08, 2014, 11:56am
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Ratings are subjective. One could argue that those same officials are rated highest because Adams subconsciously makes the criteria fit those officials that he likes the most.
That is very true. And I am sure he has to justify his picks and if he makes the wrong decision enough, Adams will be out of a job. We all have a boss on some level or people we have to be accountable to at some point. That is of course you own your own business and no one is paying your bills.

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Old Tue Apr 08, 2014, 05:48pm
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JR, there's still the client.

One reason why you would want to give someone a shot is you don't want to end up one day with a group of mostly inexperienced FF officials to choose from. There's a big difference in a Cowboys Stadium crowd and one at the AAC in Dallas (where a first round might be held) or even at the Garden where a regional might be held. I know Cowboys hosted a regional but not everyone worked there and even then, it wasn't the same environment.
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Old Tue Apr 08, 2014, 11:25pm
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Ratings are subjective. One could argue that those same officials are rated highest because Adams subconsciously makes the criteria fit those officials that he likes the most.
By definition, criteria are ENTIRELY subjective (not only the actual judgement of each play, but the criteria itself is subject to whomever determines criteria selection).

For the record, John Adams determined the crew that officiated the Duke v Butler Championship game was 70% accurate for the entire game.

If you are comparing the NCAA D1 Tournament assignments to your local HS state association assignments, I think you're confusing two entirely different set of assignment criteria. The NCAA actually records/measures every call (for accuracy) in every game of the tournament. Those officials advance based on call accuracy (among other criteria).

Generally speaking, HS officials are selected/assignment based on metrics that have nothing to do with call accuracy (coaches ratings, other officials ratings, or simply "assignors choice"). Like college, the HS assignments for state tournament games shouldn't be "lifetime achievement awards" or based on a "give a 'new guy' a chance"-theory…..simply assign the BEST official (unfortunately that doesn't happen often).
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Old Tue Apr 08, 2014, 11:36pm
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Generally speaking, HS officials are selected/assignment based on metrics that have nothing to do with call accuracy (coaches ratings, other officials ratings, or simply "assignors choice"). Like college, the HS assignments for state tournament games shouldn't be "lifetime achievement awards" or based on a "give a 'new guy' a chance"-theory…..simply assign the BEST official (unfortunately that doesn't happen often).
The NCAA has a few more resources than a HS association. Even televised HS games are far and few between.

There are a lot of things that should not be, but what are you going to do to change it if you say it is based on merit? And the whole idea of merit anyway is always a myth. For one what is used as a critieria of merit is going to change based on the person making the decisions and choosing assignments. Even if you say, the best officials should be working, we would still have people complain about who was picked, just like we had here for the NCAA when certain individuals were picked.

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