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Old Tue Apr 08, 2014, 10:36am
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2nd half at 18:05

Attempted dunk by UConn player is blocked by UK player but continues to the rim. UConn player appears to still have ball in hand to continue the dunk, ball hits the rim, but dunk is not completed.

The crew goes to the monitor and resets the shot clock.

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but was there a NCAA video bulletin last season about this play and to NOT reset the shot clock?
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Old Tue Apr 08, 2014, 10:46am
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2nd half at 18:05

Attempted dunk by UConn player is blocked by UK player but continues to the rim. UConn player appears to still have ball in hand to continue the dunk, ball hits the rim, but dunk is not completed.

The crew goes to the monitor and resets the shot clock.

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but was there a NCAA video bulletin last season about this play and to NOT reset the shot clock?
Correct, if the ball does not leave the shooters hand, it is not considered a shot clock attempt and the shot clock should not be reset.
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Old Tue Apr 08, 2014, 11:49am
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Correct, if the ball does not leave the shooters hand, it is not considered a shot clock attempt and the shot clock should not be reset.
The NBA rule on shot clock resets is what the NCAA-M should go to.....ball hits rim (doesn't matter how/why) = reset. Currently in NCAA-M, clock reset ONLY when legal shot hits rim.
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Old Tue Apr 08, 2014, 12:27pm
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Correct, if the ball does not leave the shooters hand, it is not considered a shot clock attempt and the shot clock should not be reset.
Thanks for re-affirming my memory.
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Old Tue Apr 08, 2014, 12:28pm
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2nd half at 18:05

Attempted dunk by UConn player is blocked by UK player but continues to the rim. UConn player appears to still have ball in hand to continue the dunk, ball hits the rim, but dunk is not completed.

The crew goes to the monitor and resets the shot clock.

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but was there a NCAA video bulletin last season about this play and to NOT reset the shot clock?
You're are correct about the interp, but in the play in question here, the ball did leave A1's hand and hit the rim.
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Old Tue Apr 08, 2014, 02:14pm
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You're are correct about the interp, but in the play in question here, the ball did leave A1's hand and hit the rim.
That's why I'd like to see the video of this play; I wasn't sure if it did.
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Old Tue Apr 08, 2014, 04:27pm
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I'll get to these tomorrow. It took a bit to find some of them (ahem... ) and now it's time for me to hit the hay. I think APG got dinged by the NCAA video police so he's off the grid for a bit.
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Old Tue Apr 08, 2014, 05:35pm
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I'll get to these tomorrow. It took a bit to find some of them (ahem... ) and now it's time for me to hit the hay. I think APG got dinged by the NCAA video police so he's off the grid for a bit.
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Old Tue Apr 08, 2014, 04:40pm
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You can watch the game here: Championship Game. The play occurs with 2.9 seconds left in the 1st half.

The switching of hands appeared to occur primarily b/c of the backboard being in the way of shooting with his right hand.

How would you rule on these plays?:
  • The Micheal Jordan shot Video where he starts with one hand and switches to the other. Lets say he got fouled after starting his motion but before he switches hands are we not scoring it?
  • B1 fouls A1 as he is jumping to shoot a layup. B2 is defending the basket and forces A1 to switch hands and shoot a reverse layup.
This isn't applicable to whether or not we would rule a shooting foul but for fun if you were the person in charge of inputting the stats at the scorers table would you record 1 made field goal on 2 attempts in Jordan's play?

In my opinion the rules support this as being a shooting foul but I think that its good Nevada brings the question up. Anytime we can think critically/differently it helps us in truly understanding the rules.
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Old Tue Apr 08, 2014, 05:24pm
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Are we talking about the Randall play?

I do not see anything unusual or that would make me not call a shooting foul.

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