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JRutledge Mon Apr 07, 2014 10:26pm

I did not love the charge that Verne Harris made, but we have all been there.

Peace

Camron Rust Mon Apr 07, 2014 10:28pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 930850)
Was the final foul of the first half in the act of shooting?
Seemed that the player had the ball in his right hand when fouled and then switched it over to his left for his shot.
2.9 secs on the clock

While I haven't look at the video to see the play, why would it matter that he switched hands?

Camron Rust Mon Apr 07, 2014 10:31pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 930866)
These guys for the most part are having a great game. I agree with about every call they show in slow motion. Very solid so far.

Peace

Quote:

Originally Posted by michblue (Post 930869)
I have to agree with JRut. This crew had solid night overall.

I agree. The misses were generally minor and hard to really complain about....the backcourt call was wrong but insignificant as was the lack of a call on the running OOB violation mentioned above. One foul called incorrectly was the PC called on the spin move by #22 for UK....there was very little contact at all and defender flopped.

There was really only one drive where I thought there appeared to be a substantial amount of contact where I'd like to have seen a different angle on.

Napier shot the lights out....UK missed their FTs and really missed Cauley-Stein and his ability to back up his guards and let them play more aggressive defense on the perimeter.

AremRed Mon Apr 07, 2014 10:33pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 930851)
UConn player on the wing with about 12:50 on the clock in the first half.
Did he travel before going around his defender for a dunk?

I thought so.

Quote:

Originally Posted by grunewar (Post 930856)
About midway through the first half UCONN guard drives the lane and leaves his feet and passes to his team mate on his right. His player misses the ball, looks like the ball goes untouched, and the same guard retrieves his own pass. Happening right in front of the KY bench, Coach Calipari, needless to say, has a little hissy fit.

I thought it was touched by the defender.

Quote:

Originally Posted by canuckrefguy (Post 930839)
DeRosa throwing the opening tip.

No, that was Doug Shows.

canuckrefguy Mon Apr 07, 2014 10:36pm

By all accounts, "maybe" two misses on the night.

A terrific job by Harris, Shows, and DeRosa - made more so perhaps by all the stuff that went on in the semis that drew controversy.

Quote:

Originally Posted by AremRed (Post 930877)
No, that was Doug Shows.

Dammit, Rut - just ONCE I'd like to catch you being wrong ;)

Eleven years and counting.... :D

JRutledge Mon Apr 07, 2014 10:40pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by canuckrefguy (Post 930878)
By all accounts, "maybe" two misses on the night.

A terrific job by Harris, Shows, and DeRosa - made more so perhaps by all the stuff that went on in the semis that drew controversy.



Dammit, Rut - just ONCE I'd like to catch you being wrong ;)

Eleven years and counting.... :D

Watch one of my games, and you will see things wrong more than I would like to admit. ;)

Peace

7IronRef Mon Apr 07, 2014 10:45pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by eyezen (Post 930870)
At least one team on the court did....terrible basketball.

much better game than it looked. points in the paint were at a premium on both ends, no uncontested shots, a ton of blocked shots.

Nevadaref Mon Apr 07, 2014 10:49pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by canuckrefguy (Post 930878)
By all accounts, "maybe" two misses on the night.

Two whistles were definitely incorrect (bc call after first five minutes and PC by Verne). There are a few others which we can debate.

I will agree that the crew was excellent overall in a game that wasn't easy to call. Lots of blocked shots and rebounding battles. I give them an Attaboy.

JRutledge Mon Apr 07, 2014 10:50pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 930882)
Two whistles were definitely incorrect (bc call after first five minutes and PC by Verne). There are a few others which we can debate.

That is pretty darn good if you ask me.

The kick call was a great call.

Peace

Sharpshooternes Mon Apr 07, 2014 11:02pm

I thought the officials did an excellent job. And even if the missed two calls, that is a high percentage of correct calls. The difference I that game was uconn FTs 10 for 10 or so and Kentucky 15 for 30 or something.

eyezen Mon Apr 07, 2014 11:10pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by 7IronRef (Post 930881)
much better game than it looked. points in the paint were at a premium on both ends, no uncontested shots, a ton of blocked shots.

I also saw one team clang a bunch of missed free throws (uk 54%) neither team shot 50% from the field (uconn 41%) several souvenirs thrown into the stands (23 turnovers) and the winning team averaged 1.5 pts a minute

caliref Tue Apr 08, 2014 12:49am

When Vern Harris is the referee, he always has the U2 throw the ball up.

Nevadaref Tue Apr 08, 2014 01:12am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 930874)
While I haven't look at the video to see the play, why would it matter that he switched hands?

Pretty tough to define it as continuous motion when the other hand is used to shoot the ball.

Camron Rust Tue Apr 08, 2014 01:37am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 930896)
Pretty tough to define it as continuous motion when the other hand is used to shoot the ball.

Not sure I've ever heard that interpretation before. If it is all in one effort/motion, I view it as continuous.

just another ref Tue Apr 08, 2014 01:40am

Only time I've seen this argument is when the contact knocks the ball completely free, then the airborne player grabs it out of the air and puts it in.


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