Wisconsin / Kentucky

[canuckrefguy]

Originally Posted by blindzebra

Two steps to his left that allowed him to A) release the ball and B) jump into the defender is absolutely a big time violation.

It used to be an automatic call everywhere but the NBA, sadly that is not the case anymore.

Just watching the replay. Not seeing that at all. Here's the play-by-play off my PVR:

#12 receives pass and lands right foot - left foot (legal)
Dribbles once, picks up dribble, lands with right foot barely ahead of the left foot
Shot fakes - defender goes airborne (nothing)
Shooter moves right foot while jumping

I'm thinking official on the play gives #12 the two-foot jump stop off the dribble, and therefore no travel.

Technically, you could say travel - but it's a ticky-tack call on that kind of play.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by canuckrefguy

Just watching the replay. Not seeing that at all. Here's the play-by-play off my PVR:

#12 receives pass and lands right foot - left foot (legal)
Dribbles once, picks up dribble, lands with right foot barely ahead of the left foot
Shot fakes - defender goes airborne (nothing)
Shooter moves right foot while jumping

I'm thinking official on the play gives #12 the two-foot stop off the dribble, and therefore no travel.

Technically, you could say travel - but it's a ticky-tack call on that kind of play.

This is what I saw. It's not the sort of travel you're going to pick up when you're watching for impact you know is coming because you were watching the defender.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Adam

Was he the one who called all three of those bad blocks against Jackson?

Or the one against Lee when Kaminsky slammed into him?

There were a number of head-scratcher blocks on both sides.

[just another ref]

But, luckily we had a detailed, thorough, scientific analysis of the whole thing.

"I don't see how you can guard anybody in the post if they're not going to let you wrestle a little bit."

Rex Chapman

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by canuckrefguy

Good grief - that Harrison is money.

So that's how Kentucky recruited those twins.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

1. Little known NCAA rule permits the team to inbound either table side or opposite table following a technical foul, which is not POI.2. The very rare example of offensive GT just occurred, but was not called, at 16:35 of the 2nd half.
3. Crew was rather poor on block/charge decision in the first half. Two or three fouls called blocks which were PCs, imo.

In the "Ancient Days" the offended team had the choice of which Sideline at the Division Line to take the Throw-in for both boys'/girls' H.S. and men's/women's college. A number of years ago (no, I am not going to climb up into the attic, LOL!), the NFHS changed the rule to put the ball in play at the Division Line opposite the Table. But the NCAA did not adopt the change.

MTD, Sr.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

In the "Ancient Days" the offended team had the choice of which Sideline at the Division Line to take the Throw-in for both boys'/girls' H.S. and men's/women's college. A number of years ago (no, I am not going to climb up into the attic, LOL!), the NFHS changed the rule to put the ball in play at the Division Line opposite the Table. But the NCAA did not adopt the change.

MTD, Sr.

And now all the youngin's have the rest of the story!
Thanks for the post.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by bballref3966

Close goaltending no-call at 16:36 in second half. Would love to get another look at it. Was on its downward flight, appeared to be above the ring, but not sure it had the possibility of entering the basket.

I thought it was a good call. Unless it is grossly off (it wasn't), I don't think any official would rule that it has no chance of going in.

EDIT: My comments were about the other GT was called.

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Or the one against Lee when Kaminsky slammed into him?

There were a number of head-scratcher blocks on both sides.

He was just being consistent with the blocking calls they made earlier. I knew it was gonna be called a block as soon as I heard the whistle.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by AremRed

He was just being consistent with the blocking calls they made earlier. I knew it was gonna be called a block as soon as I heard the whistle.

If Kominsky had run in to the basket stanchion, they would have called it for a block. He should have gone to Duke.

[mutantducky]

just want to say I dislike Jay Bilas. Homer for the big schools, really going for Kentucky.
that is all.
stuck in an elevator with Joe Buck, Troy Aikmen, and Jay. shudders

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

I thought it was a good call. Unless it is grossly off (it wasn't), I don't think any official would rule that it has no chance of going in.

Except the opposite of your comment is what the officials did.
There was no whistle on the play and Kentucky was permitted to score.
Thus the decision must have been that the ball didn't have a chance to go in.

[OKREF]

Originally Posted by canuckrefguy

Just watching the replay. Not seeing that at all. Here's the play-by-play off my PVR:

#12 receives pass and lands right foot - left foot (legal)
Dribbles once, picks up dribble, lands with right foot barely ahead of the left foot
Shot fakes - defender goes airborne (nothing)
Shooter moves right foot while jumping

I'm thinking official on the play gives #12 the two-foot jump stop off the dribble, and therefore no travel.
Technically, you could say travel - but it's a ticky-tack call on that kind of play.

It is an easy travel to get. I'm not going out on a limb here, but that will rarely get called at this level, but clearly it is a travel.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Except the opposite of your comment is what the officials did.
There was no whistle on the play and Kentucky was permitted to score.
This the decision must have been that the ball didn't have a chance to go in.

OK, that is a different play. I was thinking of the one where UK was on defense and swatted the ball just after the peak....and they called it.

Without going back to video at the moment, I think they one you may be talking about is the one where the ball was coming up short, perhaps not so short that it couldn't go in, and was tipped in.

Can't be GT in the NCAA, by rule....

Rule 4
Section 34. Goaltending
Art. 1. Goaltending occurs when a defensive player touches the ball during a field-goal try and each of the following conditions is met:

So, there is no restriction on the offense touching the ball on the downward flight. The NCAA rules makes it so that we don't have to differentiate between alley-oops right at the rim and shots that get tipped in on their way down.

NFHS, however, doesn't make the distinction between offense or defense.

[Sharpshooternes]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

OK, that is a different play. I was thinking of the one where UK was on defense and swatted the ball just after the peak....and they called it.

Without going back to video at the moment, I think they one you may be talking about is the one where the ball was coming up short, perhaps not so short that it couldn't go in, and was tipped in.

Can't be GT in the NCAA, by rule....



So, there is no restriction on the offense touching the ball on the downward flight. The NCAA rules makes it so that we don't have to differentiate between alley-oops right at the rim and shots that get tipped in on their way down.

NFHS, however, doesn't make the distinction between offense or defense.

Wait. So in HS the offense can commit goaltending? Do you have a video example?