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Old Sat Mar 29, 2014, 01:39pm
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First play: definitely worth a warning if it keeps happening - but a T on this play probably eliminates any other BS.

Second play: T might have been stacked on that play - but C couldn't have a better view. New L probably has a view but is nowhere near enough to have a whistle.
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Old Sat Mar 29, 2014, 02:13pm
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The problem is he did that same thing 3 times that game..the taunting...nothing ever was said as far as I could see
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Old Sat Mar 29, 2014, 03:31pm
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Did he push off? Yes. But it was to free himself. Defender was holding him first. Had his arm wrapped around his back.
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Old Sat Mar 29, 2014, 03:35pm
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Did he push off? Yes. But it was to free himself. Defender was holding him first. Had his arm wrapped around his back.
At no point do I see the defender's arm "wrapped".

They are in close quarters, but there's no hold there.
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Old Sat Mar 29, 2014, 04:19pm
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At no point do I see the defender's arm "wrapped".

They are in close quarters, but there's no hold there.
Look at the 24-25 second mark. Arm wraps around, hand on the back, almost touching the number.
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Old Sat Mar 29, 2014, 04:34pm
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Look at the 24-25 second mark. Arm wraps around, hand on the back, almost touching the number.
Arms from both players come together at the moment of the push off. Offensive foul.

If the "hold" is so bad - call the hold.
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Old Sat Mar 29, 2014, 05:01pm
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This game reminded me of a private conversation I had this winter in a High School gym while working a game...

Veteran official "observing" my game: "Are they paying your partner?"
Me: "Sure, why wouldn't they?"
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Old Sat Mar 29, 2014, 08:10pm
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If the "hold" is so bad - call the hold.
That was the whole point.
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Old Sat Mar 29, 2014, 06:00pm
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Did he push off? Yes. But it was to free himself. Defender was holding him first. Had his arm wrapped around his back.
Agreed, call the hold and we don't have to worry about the push.
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Old Sat Mar 29, 2014, 08:09pm
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I would get him for taunting or talk to him at some point. Honestly, no one knows if he was talked to unless you were in the arena watching the game and saw the official step to that player or talk to a coach. And even then it would be hard to know for sure if he was warned.

The second play both players have their arms on each other. And yes the Virginia player has his arms around the waist of the MSU player, but I see no restriction. I would have called the push off more likely.

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