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AremRed Fri Mar 28, 2014 11:29pm
No foul at 14.2 seconds. Defender stayed legal and moved with vertical plane. Not a huge miss though.

Rich Fri Mar 28, 2014 11:32pm
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Originally Posted by UmpJM (Post 929643)
To me, it looked like the shooter jumped into him.

(Of course, I don't even DO basketball, and you just worked a state final so...)

JM
I'm not saying the shooter didn't initiate the contact to a certain degree. I'm saying that the defender wasn't entirely vertical, that he moved into the shooter.

I'm a big believer in verticality - I just think it's a stretch to say this defender was vertical.

Rich Fri Mar 28, 2014 11:34pm
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Originally Posted by Multiple Sports (Post 929632)
That was a pretty marginal "and 1" for a fourth foul in this game....

I need Louisville in my pool.....
I thought the same thing when I saw this one. Arm was down a bit, but I didn't think the contact warranted a whistle at all. No disadvantage.

Rich Fri Mar 28, 2014 11:34pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by AremRed (Post 929644)
No foul at 14.2 seconds. Defender stayed legal and moved with vertical plane. Not a huge miss though.
Or maybe not a miss at all.

twocentsworth Fri Mar 28, 2014 11:35pm
I don't have "a dog in this fight".....to the officiating crew in the UK v U of L game - you gotta be better than that!

Nevadaref Fri Mar 28, 2014 11:37pm
That is a vertical defender in my opinion. If the Louisville player had made both FTs the call would have had a substantial impact. As it turned out he only made 1 of 2 and still being behind Louisville had to foul.

Rooster Fri Mar 28, 2014 11:39pm
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Originally Posted by canuckrefguy (Post 929642)
Hmm. Would like to see the video on that one. The replays they showed looked pretty vertical. :confused:
Watch the defender's hands while he's in the air in the view from the endline. That'll tell you which direction the defender was moving (into the shooter).

Multiple Sports Fri Mar 28, 2014 11:40pm
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Originally Posted by Rich (Post 929647)
I thought the same thing when I saw this one. Arm was down a bit, but I didn't think the contact warranted a whistle at all. No disadvantage.
This is where I wish more of us really took a firm grasp of the NBA school of thought.....if that ball rolls of rim and you really want a foul come get it late....

Rich Fri Mar 28, 2014 11:44pm
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Originally Posted by Rooster (Post 929653)
Watch the defender's hands while he's in the air in the view from the endline. That'll tell you which direction the defender was moving (into the shooter).
Someone will post a video. I'm guessing that it's unlikely people will move off their opinions, though.

I'd like the no call at 1:30, too, if anyone can grab it. That one, I also suspect, will have disagreement that the video may not settle.

Multiple Sports Fri Mar 28, 2014 11:44pm
Watching high lites on TBS....
somebody please shut up Doug Gottlieb!!!!

twocentsworth Fri Mar 28, 2014 11:45pm
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Originally Posted by Multiple Sports (Post 929656)
Watching high lites on TBS....
somebody please shut up Doug Gottlieb!!!!
Doug is actually the only one making sense.

AremRed Fri Mar 28, 2014 11:56pm
I think that was the most physical game of the season, hands down.

I also thought there were four or five handchecks that went uncalled on Louisville during their full-court pressing.

Multiple Sports Fri Mar 28, 2014 11:57pm
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Originally Posted by twocentsworth (Post 929657)
Doug is actually the only one making sense.
Guess your a Dorris Burke fan as well.....:D:D:D

Camron Rust Sat Mar 29, 2014 01:16am
Quote:
Originally Posted by zm1283 (Post 929638)
Randle's foul with 14.2 left? I thought he maintained verticality pretty well.
Versatility? He was straight up and down in his orientation, but not in his direction of movement. He jumped into the shooter.

Camron Rust Sat Mar 29, 2014 01:19am
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Originally Posted by AremRed (Post 929662)
I think that was the most physical game of the season, hands down.

I also thought there were four or five handchecks that went uncalled on Louisville during their full-court pressing.
I thought it was very physical at times and very tightly called at others....seemed like the level of contact that drew a whistle varied substantially throughout.


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