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Old Fri Mar 21, 2014, 08:20pm
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1st play was the definitely marginal at best. Hand is on top of the ball. Picked a bad time to go bezerk
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Old Fri Mar 21, 2014, 09:38pm
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Hard to be overly critical of fellow officials. Having said that, I think it was far from the best officiated game of the past couple of days.
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Old Sat Mar 22, 2014, 11:44am
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I like both fouls and Ts.

The first one the player "bellied up" the shooter and then the other player hit the shooter on the elbow and wrist.

The second play the defender was not vertical. It does not seem that was the reason the coach was complaining, but the coach went out of the box, way out of the box. I like the second T for that too.

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Old Sat Mar 22, 2014, 12:24pm
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After the foul was called the shot clock issue became moot, so what was he going to accomplish at the scorer's table?
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Old Sat Mar 22, 2014, 01:12pm
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After the foul was called the shot clock issue became moot, so what was he going to accomplish at the scorer's table?
he was there before the foul was called
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Old Sat Mar 22, 2014, 01:41pm
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he was there before the foul was called
The play is at the other end of the court. The officials are watching the play, not the coach. Once the foul is called there was no reason for him to continue trying to get the officials' attention, which he did.
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Old Sat Mar 22, 2014, 01:58pm
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The play is at the other end of the court. The officials are watching the play, not the coach. Once the foul is called there was no reason for him to continue trying to get the officials' attention, which he did.
So he's supposed to just let the play unfold without a shot clock? It stayed at 15 for the entire play, which I believe consumed about 6-7 seconds of game time before the foul. What if it ran for more than 15 seconds and then the foul occurred?

Is it a case where since there was a foul under the 15 seconds, and before realizing a timing issue, the play stands? *I understand the officials and scorers were unaware of the timing issue until after the game.*

I'd like to know for my own understanding of the rules.
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Old Sat Mar 22, 2014, 03:17pm
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I like both fouls and Ts.

The first one the player "bellied up" the shooter and then the other player hit the shooter on the elbow and wrist.

The second play the defender was not vertical. It does not seem that was the reason the coach was complaining, but the coach went out of the box, way out of the box. I like the second T for that too.

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Agree....both pretty obvious fouls, not marginal at all.

As for the 2nd T...agree, you really can't be that far out of your box yelling anything at anyone after you've had one T.
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Old Sat Mar 22, 2014, 04:43pm
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We assign one person (the HC) final responsibility for ensuring that 5 of his players are on the court. (Even though we have mechanics to prevent having to call that T.)

Not resetting and starting the SC was missed by how many people? 3 + 1 + more (other table personnel who would have had the time and knowledge to rectify this error). So, at least 5, likely 6 or 7.

When the GC read 11:22, the SC showed :15. The GC stopped at 11:17, which means the SC should have read at most :10. But we also know that the SC wasn't running properly for some time. I bet that it wasn't running for a long enough period of time that would negate the non-urgency that Team A had on that entry pass. Imho, the mistake definitely affected the play. And in fact, the play as it developed wouldn't've even happened in that fashion.

And we want to kick a coach out of a tournament game because of this?

I see little common sense in that.

Let's walk the coach back to his bench, listen to his words, and then respond by saying that "if it happened that way, I'm sorry it was missed". Remind him that leaving the coaching box is often subject to penalty, and then "we'll work harder". That'd be a great no-call.

Just my 2 cents.
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