Coach calls out "JV official" in tourney game, on the record

I have been told by a few different people to stop doing JV games as soon as possible because Varsity coaches will keep seeing me as a JV official.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by AremRed

I have been told by a few different people to stop doing JV games as soon as possible because Varsity coaches will keep seeing me as a JV official.

This probably varies by area, but I could see it having that impact.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by AremRed

I have been told by a few different people to stop doing JV games as soon as possible because Varsity coaches will keep seeing me as a JV official.

Originally Posted by Adam

This probably varies by area, but I could see it having that impact.

Agree with Adam...this would be a regional thing. In some areas, V officials often work JV games too.

Here, the top V officials usually only work JV games if it is in a double header with the V game and only if there are not enough officials to cover all the games in a given night with 2 officials per game.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by AremRed

I have been told by a few different people to stop doing JV games as soon as possible because Varsity coaches will keep seeing me as a JV official.

Depends. If you are already established in your area, you can pretty much work whatever and not get any blowback. But if you are still trying to establish yourself as a "varsity" official, then avoiding JV games is probably best, if possible.


There is a college supervisor who puts in his contracts that his officials have to stop working HS games.

[scrounge]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Depends.

There is a college supervisor who puts in his contracts that his officials have to stop working HS games.

Now I doubt anyone would push it, and de facto he can do so simply by not scheduling anyone who does work HS games, but I don't think he can legally bar an independent contractor from working other games.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by scrounge

Now I doubt anyone would push it, and de facto he can do so simply by not scheduling anyone who does work HS games, but I don't think he can legally bar an independent contractor from working other games.

He can't. But he can terminate their contract; doesn't even have to go through the ruse of not scheduling them for any games.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

He can't. But he can terminate their contract; doesn't even have to go through the ruse of not scheduling them for any games.

There's a college football conference in my area that has done the same thing. No more Friday football for those guys.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Adam

There's a college football conference in my area that has done the same thing. No more Friday football for those guys.

I'm pretty sure I read an article about that in Referee magazine last year.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by Adam

There's a college football conference in my area that has done the same thing. No more Friday football for those guys.

It makes a LITTLE more sense in football, as 90% of the HS games are Fridays and 90% of the college games are Saturdays, and he likely doesn't want tired and sleepy officials on the field.

Basketball, with scheduling any old day and multiple games a week, it seems to make less sense to me.

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

There is a college supervisor who puts in his contracts that his officials have to stop working HS games.

That's bs, unless this guy is giving you 50+ college games a season.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by AremRed

That's bs, unless this guy is giving you 50+ college games a season.

You have the choice not to work for him. He's a D1 supervisor, doesn't take very many game to replace a HS paycheck.

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by AremRed

That's bs, unless this guy is giving you 50+ college games a season.

To borrow from my BV assignor in situations like this when people disagree with a policy: "You don't have to give up your HS games. You also don't have to work any college games, either."

There's a HS assignor in my area who tells officials if they give back one of his games for a JUCO/NCAA game he'll pull their schedule. Now that's nuts.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by JetMetFan

To borrow from my BV assignor in situations like this when people disagree with a policy: "You don't have to give up your HS games. You also don't have to work any college games, either."

There's a HS assignor in my area who tells officials if they give back one of his games for a JUCO/NCAA game he'll pull their schedule. Now that's nuts.

And yet he's well within his right to do that.

Me, I think that's counterproductive. As an assignor, I'd want officials to be able to work at higher levels and gain that experience and use it to make the games he works for me better and the people he works with better, too.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Rich

Me, I think that's counterproductive. As an assignor, I'd want officials to be able to work at higher levels and gain that experience and use it to make the games he works for me better and the people he works with better, too.

This is how it works here. If you get a call for a college game, the HS assignor will replace you, and you get to keep the rest of your HS games.

Now, if you had the college game for weeks and then get a HS assignment but turn it back, he's not going to be too happy that you didn't block out that date. Do that enough times and he may just stop giving you games.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by JetMetFan

...There's a HS assignor in my area who tells officials if they give back one of his games for a JUCO/NCAA game he'll pull their schedule. Now that's nuts.

Originally Posted by Rich

And yet he's well within his right to do that.

Me, I think that's counterproductive. As an assignor, I'd want officials to be able to work at higher levels and gain that experience and use it to make the games he works for me better and the people he works with better, too.

That's one of the things that led to the mess we have down here now. The commissioner didn't like college officials if they didn't make HS their priority.