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JRutledge Sat Mar 08, 2014 09:25am

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Originally Posted by Rich (Post 926235)
Calling Bugs Bunny....



You have got to be kidding. The end line replay clearly shows the defender sliding laterally in on the airborne shooter.

I thought this was an issue of the RA, not anything else. I do not claim to know much about Women's rules in this area. And that is why the officials pointed to the floor.

Peace

walt Sat Mar 08, 2014 11:03am

Block, RA, perfect NCAA-W mechanic at spot. The T for taunting was easy as well. She is good. I worked with her at a camp as well.

JetMetFan Sat Mar 08, 2014 11:06am

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 926250)
I thought this was an issue of the RA, not anything else. I do not claim to know much about Women's rules in this area. And that is why the officials pointed to the floor.

Peace

The Lower Defensive Box is the only difference between the women's and men's rules in this area.

JugglingReferee Sat Mar 08, 2014 11:49am

Easy T to identify. Great call on the RA play as well.

JRutledge Sat Mar 08, 2014 12:04pm

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Originally Posted by JetMetFan (Post 926258)
The Lower Defensive Box is the only difference between the women's and men's rules in this area.

And none of what you just said helps me understand why these calls should be different.

I do realize that theres are rules differences, but how does that relate to the RA or secondary defender? And I am honestly asking too. ;)

Peace

JetMetFan Sat Mar 08, 2014 12:39pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 926264)
And none of what you just said helps me understand why these calls should be different.

I do realize there are rules differences, but how does that relate to the RA or secondary defender? And I am honestly asking too. ;)

Peace

Gotcha

I don't think in this case they would be different. Even if you factor in the LDB (for me) and upward motion (for you) the fact the defender didn't appear to have LGP makes it all the same. For once :-D

Here's to hoping I gave a good answer ;-)

AremRed Sun Mar 09, 2014 11:00pm

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Originally Posted by walt (Post 926257)
perfect NCAA-W mechanic

Perfect NBA mechanic too!

Raymond Mon Mar 10, 2014 01:23am

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Originally Posted by AremRed (Post 926419)
Perfect NBA mechanic too!

I believe she is in the D-league, and maybe even the non-staff NBA roster.

AremRed Mon Mar 10, 2014 01:37am

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 926430)
I believe she is in the D-league, and maybe even the non-staff NBA roster.

Yes, both. That's why I said that!

mutantducky Mon Mar 10, 2014 11:59pm

block

I really dislike the charge call in situations like this. Not a fan of coaches teaching their players to take charges when they aren't called for. Just play D and defend the ball. In my opinion too many charges are called when an offensive player makes a good move to get into the lane and a defensive player steps in at the last second. Try to block the shot or get out the way.
Darn you to heck Shane Battier!:rolleyes:

Camron Rust Tue Mar 11, 2014 04:14am

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Originally Posted by mutantducky (Post 926573)
block

I really dislike the charge call in situations like this. Not a fan of coaches teaching their players to take charges when they aren't called for. Just play D and defend the ball. In my opinion too many charges are called when an offensive player makes a good move to get into the lane and a defensive player steps in at the last second. Try to block the shot or get out the way.
Darn you to heck Shane Battier!:rolleyes:

While I also have a block, I very much disagree with the mentality that defense should block the shot or let them through. Good defense rarely requires blocking a shot, it just doesn't let them get to the shot to start with. The job of the defense is to stop them from getting to the basket...and that includes help defenders cutting off the path in enough time that the offense could stop. And, the offense usually sees them coming, has plenty of time to stop, but presses on with the hope they'll get to the spot first or they'll get a referee that thinks everything should be a block.

Maineac Tue Mar 11, 2014 07:46am

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 926243)
Due to the thread title, I expected to see two difficult decisions in the video.
However, the first one is really nothing more than an out of bounds call--just a matter of looking for where the player's foot is--

Actually, it's not quite as simple as just looking where the foot is in NCAAW. The official also needs to know where the player started her move to the basket, whether it was inside or outside the LDB. Not necessarily easy if that play originates outside one's PCA. Excellent call.

Rich Tue Mar 11, 2014 09:15am

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Originally Posted by mutantducky (Post 926573)
block

I really dislike the charge call in situations like this. Not a fan of coaches teaching their players to take charges when they aren't called for. Just play D and defend the ball. In my opinion too many charges are called when an offensive player makes a good move to get into the lane and a defensive player steps in at the last second. Try to block the shot or get out the way.
Darn you to heck Shane Battier!:rolleyes:

I'm with Camron. Unfortunately for us, it appears the NCAA and NBA agree with you or there wouldn't be such things as RAs.

Then again, I'm sure your view doesn't affect how you call a HS game since there's no such thing as an RA in HS games.

MD Longhorn Tue Mar 11, 2014 10:19am

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Originally Posted by maroonx (Post 926231)
That was a horrible call. It was a PC.

Trying to bee a maroon (a la Bugs Bunny)??? Watch her right foot.

Adam Tue Mar 11, 2014 10:22am

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Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 926583)
While I also have a block, I very much disagree with the mentality that defense should block the shot or let them through. Good defense rarely requires blocking a shot, it just doesn't let them get to the shot to start with. The job of the defense is to stop them from getting to the basket...and that includes help defenders cutting off the path in enough time that the offense could stop. And, the offense usually sees them coming, has plenty of time to stop, but presses on with the hope they'll get to the spot first or they'll get a referee that thinks everything should be a block.

Agreed. Most players have no business trying to block a shot anyway.


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