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Old Sun Mar 09, 2014, 10:48am
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Clarification Alert!!!

My anonymous NCAAW source - whom I trust and who would definitely know these things - tells me the play in this thread should have been ruled continuous motion. Reason = in this case "it is one move to the basket."

The video I saw on the NCAAW site last year was a similar play but not exactly the same. My apologies for any confusion.
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Old Sun Mar 09, 2014, 12:23pm
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Clarification Alert!!!

My anonymous NCAAW source - whom I trust and who would definitely know these things - tells me the play in this thread should have been ruled continuous motion. Reason = in this case "it is one move to the basket."

The video I saw on the NCAAW site last year was a similar play but not exactly the same. My apologies for any confusion.

I can't believe anybody doubted the interpretation I gave in my OP.

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Old Sun Mar 09, 2014, 12:50pm
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I really don't see a foul in the OP at all.
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Old Sun Mar 09, 2014, 01:13pm
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I can't believe anybody doubted the interpretation I gave in my OP.

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I can't believe you are ignoring that this is a NCAA-Men's game, and a new interp on habitual shooting motion was put out this year.
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Old Sun Mar 09, 2014, 02:48pm
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I can't believe you are ignoring that this is a NCAA-Men's game, and a new interp on habitual shooting motion was put out this year.

Because the new interpretation had nothing to do with a foul during this type of play.

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Because the new interpretation had nothing to do with a foul during this type of play.

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It sure does. He got fouled prior to bringing the ball up into a shooting motion.

Still, all this would be irrelevant had they called him for palming.
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It sure does. He got fouled prior to bringing the ball up into a shooting motion.

Still, all this would be irrelevant had they called him for palming.

Bad News Ref:

The new rule change (which I think is an idiotic change made by people who do not have a clue as to why the Guarding and Screening rules were written the way they were written in the first place) pertains to a defensive player attempting to Establish a LGP before the player in Control of the Ball goes airborne, but that is a discussion for another day. That was not the case in this play: But Continuous Motion does apply in this play; an offensive player is allowed to finish any legal foot movement after being fouled prior to the release of the ball for an attempted Field Goal.

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Bad News Ref:

The new rule change (which I think is an idiotic change made by people who do not have a clue as to why the Guarding and Screening rules were written the way they were written in the first place) pertains to a defensive player attempting to Establish a LGP before the player in Control of the Ball goes airborne, but that is a discussion for another day. That was not the case in this play: But Continuous Motion does apply in this play; an offensive player is allowed to finish any legal foot movement after being fouled prior to the release of the ball for an attempted Field Goal.

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You have not read this entire thread, nor clicked on the link in one of my previous posts.

I referee NCAA-Men's basketball, I keep up with the bulletins.

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By in season interp, the rule is no longer the same for NCAA-M.
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BNR, can you post that for us?
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Bad News Ref:

The new rule change (which I think is an idiotic change made by people who do not have a clue as to why the Guarding and Screening rules were written the way they were written in the first place) pertains to a defensive player attempting to Establish a LGP before the player in Control of the Ball goes airborne, but that is a discussion for another day. That was not the case in this play: But Continuous Motion does apply in this play; an offensive player is allowed to finish any legal foot movement after being fouled prior to the release of the ball for an attempted Field Goal.

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The first signs of early onset dementia, or maybe you didn't read the link BNR posted, because it is exactly about the play in the OP.
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Because the new interpretation had nothing to do with a foul during this type of play.

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Mark, the new upward motion moment is the same, per NCAAM, as the start of continuous motion.
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MTD,

I don't see this play any differently than a rebounder "gathering" the rebound and getting fouled on his way DOWN to the floor even though I know that he is going right back up to shoot as soon as he lands. The rebounder gets fouled before the throwing motion has started.

I don't see any thing that would meet the "usual throwing motion has started" if a player is fouled on the way "down" on a jump stop.
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The video I saw on the NCAAW site last year was a similar play but not exactly the same. My apologies for any confusion.
What was the significant difference?
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