Oakland vs Youngstown State (video and article)

[Camron Rust]

Illegal screen. Defender was in motion and the screener didn't get there with time/distance.....was even still moving into the defender at the time of contact.

As for what I'd do if they told me about the play they're planning....I'll know where I need to look.

I've even asked coaches/players, if the situation permits, what they're planning to do when coming out of a timeout on a late game play. Why not know where to focus in a critical situation. Going long, going short and dribbling up?

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Illegal screen. Defender was in motion and the screener didn't get there with time/distance.....was even still moving into the defender at the time of contact.
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You beat me to it. My immediate thought was this was an illegal screen.

[Indianaref]

No doubt that was an illegal screen.

[just another ref]

Why is this play so "brilliant and clever?" It's been around forever.

[johnny d]

Because an official was finally duped into calling a foul on the defense. All the other times I remember this play happening at D1 level, there were no calls.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Why is this play so "brilliant and clever?" It's been around forever.

Because it's Yahoo Sports.

[MD Longhorn]

I can see an IS call here - he may well have been moving.

I have a real hard time with a defensive foul though.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

First, full disclosure: Everybody knows I am a graduate of Youngstown State University.

Second: While I wish that YSU had won, they have lost too many close games this year to be worthy of going to the NCAA.

Third: I would have called an illegal screen on OU-2 because he did not give Time and Distance.

Fourth: Let us assume that OU-2 did achieve Time and Distance against YSU-2. If there is contact between YSU-2 and OU-2 and OU is knocked down, there is no foul as long as YSU-2 stops upon contact and does not continue running through OU-2.

The words above in red are the key to setting screens (offensive or defensive) against a moving player. Physics tell us that when we have a completely elastic collision that the momentum (P) of the system must be the same before and after the collision. Collisions between human bodies are not elastic but can be considered inelastic. That means it is very difficult for the screened player to stop instantly upon contact. I cannot remember that last time I saw a screened player in this circumstances stopping the instant he made contact with the screener.

MTD, Sr.

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

You beat me to it. My immediate thought was this was an illegal screen.

Same here. By the time the screener got into Red 25's visual field, Red 25 didn't have a normal step to stop or change direction.

As for being "brilliant and clever," I remember Billy Packer always complaining it shouldn't be called a foul because "the official knows what the team with the ball is trying to do (i.e., draw the foul)." Huh??