Oakland vs Youngstown State (video and article)

[grunewar]

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From the article:

Both times Kampe took the time to warn the referees ahead of time what he was planning.

"I go, 'You got to call it now if he runs him over,'" Kampe told reporters after the game. "He goes, 'If he runs him over, Bader goes down and he goes down on top of him, I'll call it.'"


What would you say if a coach warns you of an upcoming play? Anything?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by grunewar

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From the article:

Both times Kampe took the time to warn the referees ahead of time what he was planning.

"I go, 'You got to call it now if he runs him over,'" Kampe told reporters after the game. "He goes, 'If he runs him over, Bader goes down and he goes down on top of him, I'll call it.'"


What would you say if a coach warns you of an upcoming play? Anything?

I'll look to see that both teams / players are legal.

[twocentsworth]

On a similar note....anyone see the finish to Marquette @ Providence last night? Down 1 w/ approx. 7 seconds left, the Providence HC told the officials they weren't trying to foul - but were gonna try & get a jump ball (Providence had the arrow) on the ensuing throw-in by Marquette.

Sure enough, the Marquette guard receives the ball, "covers up" waiting to be fouled...and the Providence player grabs the ball....tweet - Jump Ball!

Providence gets fouled on the following inbounds pass, makes both FT's (to go ahead by 1), and wins after a missed MU shot at the buzzer.

That's good coaching.....AND....good officiating!

IF a coach tells me ahead of time what they're gonna do...my response: "I'll look for it"...and then officiate it based on what happens.

[Camron Rust]

Illegal screen. Defender was in motion and the screener didn't get there with time/distance.....was even still moving into the defender at the time of contact.

As for what I'd do if they told me about the play they're planning....I'll know where I need to look.

I've even asked coaches/players, if the situation permits, what they're planning to do when coming out of a timeout on a late game play. Why not know where to focus in a critical situation. Going long, going short and dribbling up?

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Illegal screen. Defender was in motion and the screener didn't get there with time/distance.....was even still moving into the defender at the time of contact.
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You beat me to it. My immediate thought was this was an illegal screen.

[Indianaref]

No doubt that was an illegal screen.

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

You beat me to it. My immediate thought was this was an illegal screen.

Same here. By the time the screener got into Red 25's visual field, Red 25 didn't have a normal step to stop or change direction.

As for being "brilliant and clever," I remember Billy Packer always complaining it shouldn't be called a foul because "the official knows what the team with the ball is trying to do (i.e., draw the foul)." Huh??

[johnny d]

That is a terrible foul call. The defender did nothing illegal. The screen was set outside his field of vision, so he is not responsible for avoiding contact. He did not extend an arm to try to push through the defender once contact was made. This is one of those instances where severe/violent contact can occur without a foul being called on either player. In fact, if I was going to call any foul (I wouldn't) it would be on the player setting the screen for not giving the defender time and distance on a screen set outside their field of view.

[MD Longhorn]

I thought we had discussed here ad nauseum that this exact play - a player running hard into a screen - was not a foul.