Coaches of physical teams...

[BigT]

I think this weekend I realized something. My last two games of the year were B-Soph and 4 very physical teams. The losing coach's were on us and me hard.

Almost feels personally with these guys. My question is this. A lot of JV officials struggle with physical play and probably don't call enough fouls. If you are a "dirty team" or are hoping to intimate or use physical play to give you an advantage then a referee who takes care of business is not going to be popular.

Do you guys believe that these coaches hold a grudge or ride you simply because you are not calling a game that is going to help their physical style of play?

Most of my games the kids play smart we call what we have to and the coaches appreciate it and we do not have any issues. Really only problem in 55+ games this year was the rare Boys Soph games where the kids were super dirty/physical and we were staying on top of it...

Again always appreciate what you have taught me and look forward to your opinion on this topic.

[bob jenkins]

Can't possibly give much advice without seeing the game, but physical <> foul.

[Raymond]

I don't worry about how the coaches feel, and definitely not about grudges. Blow your whistle and let them figure it out.

[BigT]

Basically you come to expect these kinds of coaches to be over the top, the game to not run as smooth as most due to the physical nature and you just ignore or warn the coach when he crosses the line and needs a warning or T and let the rest slide off your back. They are trying to intimate just like their players are trying to on the court and you just have to say this is the mess you have to manage THIS day and do the best you can...?

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by BigT

Basically you come to expect these kinds of coaches to be over the top, the game to not run as smooth as most due to the physical nature and you just ignore or warn the coach when he crosses the line and needs a warning or T and let the rest slide off your back. They are trying to intimate just like their players are trying to on the court and you just have to say this is the mess you have to manage THIS day and do the best you can...?

I deal with the coaches' behavior as I see fit for that game. Again, I do not worry about whether they like me, hold a grudge, or anything that has to do with feelings.

I think you worrying way too much about the type of coaches you are dealing with. If their team is playing physical, keep calling fouls. If coaches need to be warned or T'd, then warn or T them.

[BigT]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

I deal with the coaches' behavior as I see fit for that game. Again, I do not worry about whether they like me, hold a grudge, or anything that has to do with feelings.

I think you worrying way too much about the type of coaches you are dealing with. If their team is playing physical, keep calling fouls. If coaches need to be warned or T'd, then warn or T them.

Thanks Badnews

[twocentsworth]

Originally Posted by BigT

Basically you come to expect these kinds of coaches to be over the top, the game to not run as smooth as most due to the physical nature and you just ignore or warn the coach when he crosses the line and needs a warning or T and let the rest slide off your back. They are trying to intimate just like their players are trying to on the court and you just have to say this is the mess you have to manage THIS day and do the best you can...?

"you promote what you permit".....

If you don't blow the whistle, their actions and/or behavior MUST be fine with you.

IMHO, blow the whistle! 99.9% of problems in games happen when officials don't blow the whistle enough. If you think the game is "too physical"....ITS BECAUSE YOU LET IT HAPPEN.

[Nevadaref]

Some officials allow a more physical game while others don't.
Doesn't mean that the game is out of control with the physical play or that the guys who call it tighter are doing it better, it is just different.

Have you tried allowing more contact and seeing how it goes?

Personally, I've been on crews with partners of both types and I am more comfortable with the ones who permit a bit more contact. I also think that the HS game is better when the threshold for fouls is raised and the game is allowed to be on the edge.

Perhaps this is a difference between boys and girls games (boys accept more physical play, while girls want similar contact penalized as a foul).

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by twocentsworth

"you promote what you permit".....

If you don't blow the whistle, their actions and/or behavior MUST be fine with you.

IMHO, blow the whistle! 99.9% of problems in games happen when officials don't blow the whistle enough. If you think the game is "too physical"....ITS BECAUSE YOU LET IT HAPPEN.

I disagree. There are plays where coaches or players want whistles on and the player did nothing wrong or illegal. And as said people who love to say that girl's basketball is very physical, but it is also very sloppy with players doing things and any little thing makes them fall. You can call all the fouls you like, that is not going to be helped anymore. And then people complain that you are calling more fouls and taking over the game.

Peace