Anyone see this? (Video)

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by Smitty

For what it's worth, the UIL assigns crews/chapters to regional games. The chapter this crew is from is not from a large metro area and in fact is likely from a very small area. That's just how things work here. This crew is not in the chapter that assigns games for either of these teams in the regular season.

I don't live right there anymore, but when I did, the Dallas chapter handled Celina - which is just north of Little Elm (where I lived). (And the Fort Worth Chapter butted right up against it on the West)... is this no longer the case? Has some small chapter from north of Dallas eaten away part of the Dallas or Fort Worth chapters' areas?

[Smitty]

Originally Posted by MD Longhorn

I don't live right there anymore, but when I did, the Dallas chapter handled Celina - which is just north of Little Elm (where I lived). (And the Fort Worth Chapter butted right up against it on the West)... is this no longer the case? Has some small chapter from north of Dallas eaten away part of the Dallas or Fort Worth chapters' areas?

The Dallas chapter has become much smaller - the North Texas chapter handles Celina and Argyle and just about everything north of the George Bush freeway up to the Oklahoma border. North Texas has become a powerhouse chapter in the state, for good reason. A few years ago, North Texas had 50-80 members - now they have over 400.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by Smitty

The Dallas chapter has become much smaller - the North Texas chapter handles Celina and Argyle and just about everything north of the George Bush freeway up to the Oklahoma border. North Texas has become a powerhouse chapter in the state, for good reason. A few years ago, North Texas had 50-80 members - now they have over 400.

Wow. Things change fast. I would have had to join them if I'd stayed. ALL of my work was north of GBT.

[Smitty]

Originally Posted by MD Longhorn

Wow. Things change fast. I would have had to join them if I'd stayed. ALL of my work was north of GBT.

You would have switched regardless - it's such a better chapter.

[Rich1]

Originally Posted by MD Longhorn

I don't live right there anymore, but when I did, the Dallas chapter handled Celina - which is just north of Little Elm (where I lived). (And the Fort Worth Chapter butted right up against it on the West)... is this no longer the case? Has some small chapter from north of Dallas eaten away part of the Dallas or Fort Worth chapters' areas?

Each school or district chooses which chapter they want to use during the season. Playoffs are awarded to chapters by the uil based on test scores and other factors. Most of the time you are sent to a region your chapter normally does not work (but sometimes if both coaches ask for a certain chapter they might get it). The better raked your chapter the more games you get. Crews from every chapter are assigned to the state tournament for at least one game.

The crew in this game were from the Temple chapter (for the non-Texans that's near Waco about 75 miles north of Austin & 150 miles south of DFW). This is not a small town but it is also not a large metro area. There are very few of our larger schools in this area but plenty of schools the size of this game so experience was not an issue.

[Smitty]

Originally Posted by Rich1

This is not a small town but it is also not a large metro area. There are very few of our larger schools in this area but plenty of schools the size of this game so experience was not an issue.

With all due respect, having the same size schools is insignificant. Celina has been a state tourney regular - not sure about Argyle, but clearly they are very good. I'm pretty certain this crew hasn't seen a girl's game like this all season - maybe ever.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Smitty

With all due respect, having the same size schools is insignificant. Celina has been a state tourney regular - not sure about Argyle, but clearly they are very good. I'm pretty certain this crew hasn't seen a girl's game like this all season - maybe ever.

Should this matter? Do these guys work boys games?

I don't mean to turn this into a boys vs. girls thing, but top-level girls games remind me more of decent boys basketball. It's the girls ball at the bottom of the talent spectrum that's a whole different animal.

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by Smitty

With all due respect, having the same size schools is insignificant. Celina has been a state tourney regular - not sure about Argyle, but clearly they are very good. I'm pretty certain this crew hasn't seen a girl's game like this all season - maybe ever.

Originally Posted by Rich

Should this matter? Do these guys work boys games?

I don't mean to turn this into a boys vs. girls thing, but top-level girls games remind me more of decent boys basketball. It's the girls ball at the bottom of the talent spectrum that's a whole different animal.

Ever? I, like Rich, am not going to make this a boys/girls thing either especially since I officiate both at the HS level. If the officials on this crew have ever worked a basketball game with good teams - and I'm assuming they have to have been assigned a championship of any kind - then this game and this situation shouldn't have been a problem.

[Smitty]

Originally Posted by Rich

Should this matter? Do these guys work boys games?

I don't mean to turn this into a boys vs. girls thing, but top-level girls games remind me more of decent boys basketball. It's the girls ball at the bottom of the talent spectrum that's a whole different animal.

I should have been more clear and not used the "girls" qualifier. I meant in the sense of it being a very intense game - very significant, and a packed house like this. I don't know - maybe they have been there before. If they hadn't, this is a tough way to be tossed into the fire.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Smitty

I should have been more clear and not used the "girls" qualifier. I meant in the sense of it being a very intense game - very significant, and a packed house like this. I don't know - maybe they have been there before. If they hadn't, this is a tough way to be tossed into the fire.

One would hope.

Personally, I love this time of the season. I wish we could skip from February 1 right to the playoffs.

But I was recently reminded of how I felt during my first postseason game (even if I can't remember where and when it was) -- one of our 3 on Tuesday was working his first and he seemed pretty nervous beforehand.

I'm well aware of something else, too: Anyone is just one situation or play away from having a video plastered all over ESPN or YouTube.

[Smitty]

Something about the playoffs really ups my own focus and I have always had my best games of the season during the playoffs. I need to try and find a way to capture that focus during the regular season - it comes and goes. That's my own issue.

I am not allowed to really talk about the OP scenario in public - we've all been told as much in our chapter.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by Rich

Personally, I love this time of the season. I wish we could skip from February 1 right to the playoffs.

Yabut that hoses us scrubs who sit on the sidelines for the playoffs.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Rich

I'm well aware of something else, too: Anyone is just one situation or play away from having a video plastered all over ESPN or YouTube.

Or one bad partner....

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by Rich1

Each school or district chooses which chapter they want to use during the season. Playoffs are awarded to chapters by the uil based on test scores and other factors. Most of the time you are sent to a region your chapter normally does not work (but sometimes if both coaches ask for a certain chapter they might get it). The better raked your chapter the more games you get. Crews from every chapter are assigned to the state tournament for at least one game.

The crew in this game were from the Temple chapter (for the non-Texans that's near Waco about 75 miles north of Austin & 150 miles south of DFW). This is not a small town but it is also not a large metro area. There are very few of our larger schools in this area but plenty of schools the size of this game so experience was not an issue.

I thought Smitty just told us it was the NTex chapter ... and why in the world would the Temple chapter work north of Dallas?

[Smitty]

Originally Posted by MD Longhorn

I thought Smitty just told us it was the NTex chapter ... and why in the world would the Temple chapter work north of Dallas?

I said that North Texas handles Celina and Argyle during the season. But Rich is right - the crew that was assigned this regional game was from Temple. The UIL assigns crews to regional games.