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Old Tue Feb 25, 2014, 01:07am
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The "explanation" just makes it worse. As is always the case the cover-up is worse than the crime. The video points to the crew FUBAR-ing the situation. Admit it, tell everyone why it happened and move on. The losing HC is quoted as saying she knows the outcome isn't going to change. Let her know why things went the way they did and the situation goes away that much faster.

Meantime if I'm the assignor that crew is probably done for the postseason and I most likely don't send them to either of those schools next season just to put some distance between the situation.
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Old Tue Feb 25, 2014, 02:32am
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do you'se(my cousin Vinny) people sometime use players reactions to call fouls. I know that isn't common but I have on occasion. Or out of bounds plays. Ok obviously not most of the time as if you did it would get out of control especailly with some players who are going to be emotive every single time they think their is a missed call.
From the video, I can see why each ref missed the foul based on their angle. But based on the reactions of the players, especially the defensive team, they should have realized something was amiss and figured things out before leaving the court. The fans must have been bewildered.
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Old Tue Feb 25, 2014, 06:43am
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From the video, I can see why each ref missed the foul based on their angle.
The problem is we can't even say they missed the foul. There may have been a whistle for a travel. There may have been a whistle for something else. The problem is no one knows other than the three of them and their supervisor.
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Old Tue Feb 25, 2014, 10:40am
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As JMF stated, I think the L called a travel and then waived it off when the horn/lights went off. The C was marking a 3pt shot and appeared to look at the L when there was a whistle heard.

Edit to add: Looking back at the original link it appears there is a new video that clearly shows the L quickly raising his arm and then lowering it.


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Old Tue Feb 25, 2014, 10:52am
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Just from this ending I would be curious as to the overall officiating of the game up to that point. This isn't what I would expect from varsity level officials.
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Old Tue Feb 25, 2014, 09:51pm
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Just from this ending I would be curious as to the overall officiating of the game up to that point. This isn't what I would expect from varsity level officials.
More than that. I thought one of the first stories I read, said a trip to the final four was on the line, so this game must have been deep into their state tournament.
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Old Wed Feb 26, 2014, 12:57am
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I know, I know...I can't let this go.

1. If the explanation was the crew determined time expired before any contact, why not just say that within 24 hours after the game?

2. This is more of a teaching point. If the officials who didn't make the call were aware the LEDs came on after the whistle blew, which appears to be the case, one or both needed to say, "Hang on. Let's talk about this before we leave the court." There's no rush, especially in that situation. If the crew eventually determines the game is over so be it but all three officials need to have a voice at that time before leaving the court.
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Old Tue Feb 25, 2014, 11:07am
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It seems that everyone (the coach, players, fans, sports fans, other officials) simply wants to know WHAT was the judgment call or ruling by the officials.

I'm a bit surprised it doesn't look like that will be answered.

I guess no one will ever know??? Pretty bizarre in this day and age, right?

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Old Tue Feb 25, 2014, 11:15am
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And technically, she did travel before the shot. Did a "same step" move with the left foot.

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Old Tue Feb 25, 2014, 11:27am
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It seems that everyone (the coach, players, fans, sports fans, other officials) simply wants to know WHAT was the judgment call or ruling by the officials.

I'm a bit surprised it doesn't look like that will be answered.

I guess no one will ever know??? Pretty bizarre in this day and age, right?

Not necessarily bizarre for a HS level game I don't think. I believe my association has a policy where officials will not comment on games. And I can see an association taking a position that it will not comment on judgement calls (no foul).
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Old Tue Feb 25, 2014, 03:15pm
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Not necessarily bizarre for a HS level game I don't think. I believe my association has a policy where officials will not comment on games. And I can see an association taking a position that it will not comment on judgement calls (no foul).

Hokie...the question is WHAT was this judgement? Someone blew a whistle during regulation....most want to know what did they judge to have occurred. Also, I agree the officials should not comment after the game but someone should clear the air about what occurred.

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Old Thu Feb 27, 2014, 09:51am
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I apologize for starting a new thread. I did not previously see it or recognize it by this title. Thank You!
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Old Thu Feb 27, 2014, 01:40pm
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For what it's worth, the UIL assigns crews/chapters to regional games. The chapter this crew is from is not from a large metro area and in fact is likely from a very small area. That's just how things work here. This crew is not in the chapter that assigns games for either of these teams in the regular season.
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Old Tue Feb 25, 2014, 11:42am
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Edit to add: Looking back at the original link it appears there is a new video that clearly shows the L quickly raising his arm and then lowering it.
I saw that too. I'm wondering if the Lead called a foul and then second-guessed himself, considering that it was a huge call and he went way out of his primary to get it. Maybe he was going to rule it as an inadvertant whistle, and then the horn sounded and they didn't want to/know to put time back on the clock. So they let the game end on an IW... that would be my guess.
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What's funnny is White's HC talking to her players like free throws are about to be shot, and the officials just running of court like nothing out of the ordinary happened.

As far as the question about a travel, A1 does travel before releasing the shot, but I see B1 making initial contact to A1's arm prior to the travel.
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