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Raymond Wed Mar 05, 2014 11:10am

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 925770)
Is that true in NCAAM? I thought on a foul in the BC, that it was just a "bump and run", so he would have been L table side. But, sometimes, the other officials just move down and the official who is tableside inbounds (not correct, but "easier")

On all foul calls, the calling officials is supposed to go opposite table, regardless of type of foul or where it occurred. We have an exception to stay (or go) tableside if we want to address the coach.

Camron Rust Wed Mar 05, 2014 12:12pm

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 925766)
Is that the same official making both calls? The official who made the first call should have been opposite the table for the 2nd play.

Both the T and the C whistled and signaled on the first one...and they both had the wrong call. The C yielded it to the T who was opposite and stayed opposite. So, one of the same officials who called the first one (but didn't report it) called the 2nd one.

jeremy341a Wed Mar 05, 2014 01:37pm

First one is a charge but I don't think the second call is completely made up. Screener is moving into the defender at the time of contact.

#olderthanilook Wed Mar 05, 2014 02:13pm

Replay isn't good enough to definitively show block or charge anyway, imo. It almost looks like the offensive players head and shoulders were beyond the torso of the defender, which results in a Fed block.

Ready for the backlash, I am....

bob jenkins Wed Mar 05, 2014 02:47pm

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Originally Posted by #olderthanilook (Post 925824)
Replay isn't good enough to definitively show block or charge anyway, imo. It almost looks like the offensive players head and shoulders were beyond the torso of the defender, which results in a Fed block. places the greater responsibility on the defender.
Ready for the backlash, I am....

FIFY. It can still be a charge. (I did not re-watch the video to see either way.

Camron Rust Wed Mar 05, 2014 02:59pm

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Originally Posted by #olderthanilook (Post 925824)
Replay isn't good enough to definitively show block or charge anyway, imo. It almost looks like the offensive players head and shoulders were beyond the torso of the defender, which results in a Fed block.

Ready for the backlash, I am....

That has no bearing on the call if the defender is stationary....and I'm pretty sure he was.

#olderthanilook Wed Mar 05, 2014 03:19pm

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 925831)
FIFY. It can still be a charge. (I did not re-watch the video to see either way.

Looks as though the greater responsbility for contact was on the defender, then. But, again, the replay isn't definitive.

bob jenkins Wed Mar 05, 2014 04:26pm

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Originally Posted by #olderthanilook (Post 925839)
Looks as though the greater responsbility for contact was on the defender, then. But, again, the replay isn't definitive.

And that doesn't mean that it can't still be a PC foul.

Camron Rust Wed Mar 05, 2014 04:48pm

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Originally Posted by #olderthanilook (Post 925839)
Looks as though the greater responsbility for contact was on the defender, then. But, again, the replay isn't definitive.

The only thing that really means is that the defender's right to be moving laterally, as is permitted by having LGP, ceases since any new movement would be towards the opponent.


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