Coach Rips Refs & Assignor

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Why is that the case for the reporter or the editor? If that is what the coach said that is what the coach said.

I remember some years ago a coach once said that the "IHSA set us up to lose" or something to that fact and said this after a win in the playoffs. Then the coach accused the IHSA of taking officials of a certain race and suggesting that they were bias towards his team that one. And in the game, the coach's team missed like 7 or 8 FTs down the stretch and made a game close. The coach never mentioned that, but the reporter did. And the reporter gave a rather good description of the final minutes and included stats.

If a coach is going to say that, they need to be shown for their comments. Maybe more context should have been shown, but that is their job to state what is said on the record. And the article made it clear he was not just criticizing the officials, but the person that assigned them there. I think that is brilliant on many levels. The coach is the only one to blame in this case.

Peace

Reporters decide - on a regular basis - what to include and exclude from their articles. This reported did not need to include those comments in an article congratulating a different Coach on his 600th win. The reporter included those comments, imho, in order to create more "buzz" and get more people to read his article. By including those comments, the reporter put stuff out there about those refs and that assignor. That makes the reporter and his editors asshats too.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

Reporters decide - on a regular basis - what to include and exclude from their articles. This reported did not need to include those comments in an article congratulating a different Coach on his 600th win. The reporter included those comments, imho, in order to create more "buzz" and get more people to read his article. By including those comments, the reporter put stuff out there about those refs and that assignor. That makes the reporter and his editors asshats too.

Whatever the reasoning, the coach said it. I do not put that on the reporter. It shows lack of class on the coach that tried to take away from the win of the other team by making it about what he felt about the officiating.

Peace

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Whatever the reasoning, the coach said it. I do not put that on the reporter. It shows lack of class on the coach that tried to take away from the win of the other team by making it about what he felt about the officiating.

Peace

I said the Coach was an asshat for saying it.

The reporter certainly didn't need to put it in the article.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

I said the Coach was an asshat for saying it.

The reporter certainly didn't need to put it in the article.

The reporter is responsible for reporting what happened, what was said, etc. Blaming the reporter here is like blaming us when a coach gets a T.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by MD Longhorn

The reporter is responsible for reporting what happened, what was said, etc. Blaming the reporter here is like blaming us when a coach gets a T.

I'm on the fence on this one. Let's not pretend the reporter is putting everything that happened into the article. He gets to pick and choose, that's his job.

That said, freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots. This coach did the association a favor.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Adam

I'm on the fence on this one. Let's not pretend the reporter is putting everything that happened into the article. He gets to pick and choose, that's his job.

That said, freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots. This coach did the association a favor.

I do agree they pick and choose what they write. But if the quote was said, I have no problem with him putting in the quote and if that was most of the coach's reaction to the game. He could have mentioned other things in the game, but to me this just showed the character of the coach.

Peace

[Adam]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I do agree they pick and choose what they write. But if the quote was said, I have no problem with him putting in the quote and if that was most of the coach's reaction to the game. He could have mentioned other things in the game, but to me this just showed the character of the coach.

Peace

I agree. My headline would have included the words "Sore Loser".

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by MD Longhorn

The reporter is responsible for reporting what happened, what was said, etc. Blaming the reporter here is like blaming us when a coach gets a T.

Read what I wrote again. Slowly this time.

Never blamed the reporter for anything. Simply said that the reporter was also an asshat for putting those comments in an article about the other coach winning his 600th game.

But don't let what I actually wrote stop you from making those incredibly acrobatic leaps of logic that you seem to enjoy.

[Adam]

rocky, I have to ask. He's an asshat? But he's not to blame?

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by Adam

rocky, I have to ask. He's an asshat? But he's not to blame?

He is not to be blamed for the comments the coach made...which is the big leap of logic MD tried to pin on me.

He did NOT need to include those comments in the article celebrating a big win by a different coach. For including them, he also earns the asshatery award. Maybe the asshat junior award when compared to crybaby coach...but he gets one, too.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

Read what I wrote again. Slowly this time.

Never blamed the reporter for anything. Simply said that the reporter was also an asshat for putting those comments in an article about the other coach winning his 600th game.

But don't let what I actually wrote stop you from making those incredibly acrobatic leaps of logic that you seem to enjoy.

You clearly blamed the reporter for putting it in the article, and said he shouldn't have done so. I disagree. Saying he shouldn't report the fact that the coach said what he said is like someone saying we shouldn't report the technical when the coach earns it.

By the way, this article was not just about fact that it was the 600th win ... there's a separate article just on that, and this reporter puts a link to that article right at the top. THIS article was about the game itself and the comments. Perhaps the title was misleading, but usually the reporter doesn't write the headline - editors do, and they often don't get past the first 3 paragraphs before writing that headline.