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JRutledge Thu Feb 20, 2014 03:37pm

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Originally Posted by Adam (Post 923820)
I'm on the fence on this one. Let's not pretend the reporter is putting everything that happened into the article. He gets to pick and choose, that's his job.

That said, freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots. This coach did the association a favor.

I do agree they pick and choose what they write. But if the quote was said, I have no problem with him putting in the quote and if that was most of the coach's reaction to the game. He could have mentioned other things in the game, but to me this just showed the character of the coach.

Peace

Adam Thu Feb 20, 2014 03:37pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 923827)
I do agree they pick and choose what they write. But if the quote was said, I have no problem with him putting in the quote and if that was most of the coach's reaction to the game. He could have mentioned other things in the game, but to me this just showed the character of the coach.

Peace

I agree. My headline would have included the words "Sore Loser".

rockyroad Thu Feb 20, 2014 03:46pm

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Originally Posted by Adam (Post 923825)
rocky, I have to ask. He's an asshat? But he's not to blame? ;)

He is not to be blamed for the comments the coach made...which is the big leap of logic MD tried to pin on me.

He did NOT need to include those comments in the article celebrating a big win by a different coach. For including them, he also earns the asshatery award. Maybe the asshat junior award when compared to crybaby coach...but he gets one, too.

Bad Zebra Thu Feb 20, 2014 04:44pm

I disagree with anyone that feels like the reporter should have left out the coach's comments. It's not the job of this reporter (or any for that matter) to filter out ANYTHING that is said by a coach, regardless of how dumb/sore/ignorant it makes him sound. Being such a significant portion of the coach's comments, this reporter would have been remiss in editing it out. A classic case of "don't shoot the messenger".

The reporter wasn't biased or inaccurate. JRut is accurate in that it just shows the character of the coach.

Asshattery Award solely for the coach.

MD Longhorn Thu Feb 20, 2014 04:48pm

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Originally Posted by rockyroad (Post 923822)
Read what I wrote again. Slowly this time.

Never blamed the reporter for anything. Simply said that the reporter was also an asshat for putting those comments in an article about the other coach winning his 600th game.

But don't let what I actually wrote stop you from making those incredibly acrobatic leaps of logic that you seem to enjoy.

You clearly blamed the reporter for putting it in the article, and said he shouldn't have done so. I disagree. Saying he shouldn't report the fact that the coach said what he said is like someone saying we shouldn't report the technical when the coach earns it.

By the way, this article was not just about fact that it was the 600th win ... there's a separate article just on that, and this reporter puts a link to that article right at the top. THIS article was about the game itself and the comments. Perhaps the title was misleading, but usually the reporter doesn't write the headline - editors do, and they often don't get past the first 3 paragraphs before writing that headline.

BillyMac Thu Feb 20, 2014 04:50pm

Classless ...
 
We had something similar, here in Connecticut, a few years ago.

Carolina not backing off comments about officials

NICHOLS: CIAC cracking down on loose-lipped coaches

MD Longhorn Thu Feb 20, 2014 04:51pm

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Originally Posted by rockyroad (Post 923829)
He is not to be blamed for the comments the coach made...which is the big leap of logic MD tried to pin on me.

He did NOT need to include those comments in the article celebrating a big win by a different coach. For including them, he also earns the asshatery award. Maybe the asshat junior award when compared to crybaby coach...but he gets one, too.

You claim I put words in your mouth. You just did the same. I didn't say that you were blaming the comments on the reporter - not even close. You were blaming him for reporting it, and said he shouldn't have done so. THAT is what I "pinned" on you, and disagreed with.

Bad Zebra Thu Feb 20, 2014 04:54pm

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 923857)
We had something similar a few years ago. An out of area team came into our area, and the out of area coach's post game comments included references to a "home job". The coach was sanctioned by our state high school interscholastic governing body, and the offending coach's school.

As it should be. Knuckleheads like this reflect poorly on the entire school. Any AD or Principal worth a darn would sit on this guy (coach in OP) in a hurry.

From the FHSAA Basketball handbook:

30.4 Public Criticism of Officials. No coach or other representative of the school’s athletic interests may publicly
criticize or berate an official prior to, during or following a contest. Professional ethics require that coaches or other representatives
of the school’s athletic interests use proper channels, as per Bylaw 10.3.2, to report their complaints about officials rather than airing
them publicly. A minimum monetary penalty of $50 shall be assessed a school whose coach or other representative of the school’s
athletic interests are in violation of this provision.

Rich Thu Feb 20, 2014 05:29pm

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Originally Posted by Adam (Post 923828)
I agree. My headline would have included the words "Sore Loser".

If I were the reporter, I wonder if I would've used quotes that sullied / took attention from the other coach's 600th win.

JetMetFan Thu Feb 20, 2014 05:51pm

Here's one from the guy who works in the media...

I'm writing about coach XYZ's 600th victory. I go to the opposing coach for comments about the game. He goes on a rant about the officiating. Do I...ignore them? If that's what he said, that's on him.

If the reporter asked him specifically about the officiating and ignored the 600th win aspect - which could've happened, we don't know - I'd find fault with him since that's probably why he was sent on the assignment to begin with. But if the losing coach is asked about one thing, answers and then rants about the officiating I'm not doing my job if I leave it out.

As other have said, the reporter actually provided a service by getting those comments out there. Now the state can deal with the losing HC if it sees fit.


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