ACs......oh boy

pfan1981 · #1 (**permalink**) Fri Feb 14, 2014, 11:07am

Had a JV girls game last night. AC losing it about a no call when his girl lost her balance out of bounds. There was tight defense, but no contact that caused her to go OOB. I can see from the bench how it appeared maybe there was, but there wasn't (I was in perfect position to make/not make the call).

I explained to the head coach that she lost her balance and their was no contact from the defender. His AC is still going nuts. Whack. Then he loses it more and says, "I don't get a warning?!?!?!" I reply, "Assistant coaches don't get warnings."

Was that too far? I know at the JV level they aren't on as much of a leash like at the Varsity level.

Then the visiting book keeper waived his arms at me when I reported the T, should I have asked him to leave the table?

I am a little new to the game, but don't want to be a pushover. Additionally, I don't want to get black listed from these schools.

Thanks in advance,

pfan

BatteryPowered · #2 (**permalink**) Fri Feb 14, 2014, 11:18am

I probably would have whacked the AC as well but it is a had to be there thing.

Keep in mind though...you probably just whacked the varsity head coach. At least around here, the varsity head coach will sit on the bench as an assistant during the JV games. Lets them monitor/observe their assistants and the progress of the players in real game situations.

As for the table...I probably would have just given them "the look". Asking them to leave for just that would have been a bit much. At least in my opinion.

Raymond · #3 (**permalink**) Fri Feb 14, 2014, 11:21am

AC don't have the privilege of "losing it".

CountTheBasket · #4 (**permalink**) Fri Feb 14, 2014, 11:24am

You never know what you're getting as far as a table crew in JV game; Personally I would've approached them and just explained that if you're going to sit here then you're working; and specifically we're working together. You cannot react negativley or positivley as a fan would when you're sitting here at the table. I can't imagine that wouldn't correct the problem assuming the issue was just a lack of knowledge....

If it continued.....handle your buisness.

Rich · #5 (**permalink**) Fri Feb 14, 2014, 11:25am

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Originally Posted by pfan1981

Had a JV girls game last night. AC losing it about a no call when his girl lost her balance out of bounds. There was tight defense, but no contact that caused her to go OOB. I can see from the bench how it appeared maybe there was, but there wasn't (I was in perfect position to make/not make the call).

I explained to the head coach that she lost her balance and their was no contact from the defender. His AC is still going nuts. Whack. Then he loses it more and says, "I don't get a warning?!?!?!" I reply, "Assistant coaches don't get warnings."

Was that too far? I know at the JV level they aren't on as much of a leash like at the Varsity level.

Then the visiting book keeper waived his arms at me when I reported the T, should I have asked him to leave the table?

I am a little new to the game, but don't want to be a pushover. Additionally, I don't want to get black listed from these schools.

Thanks in advance,

pfan

Sounds good to me. The visiting book isn't needed at the table, so the "bullshit" wave would probably result in them losing that spot if it happened more than once.

Welpe · #6 (**permalink**) Fri Feb 14, 2014, 11:28am

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Originally Posted by pfan1981

I know at the JV level they aren't on as much of a leash like at the Varsity level.

What?

Adam · #7 (**permalink**) Fri Feb 14, 2014, 11:31am

1. Other than responding to the AC coach's stupid question (I would have maybe given the HC a quick questioning glance), I would have done the same thing.

2. The visiting book keeper would have received a quick warning about the expectations of table personnel.

Raymond · #8 (**permalink**) Fri Feb 14, 2014, 11:31am

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Originally Posted by pfan1981

...Then the visiting book keeper waived his arms at me when I reported the T, should I have asked him to leave the table?

...

"If you want to remain at this table, that behavior needs to cease...immediately"

Welpe · #9 (**permalink**) Fri Feb 14, 2014, 11:45am

Something you can say to the HC when his AC is starting to act out is "Coach, your AC is on the verge of costing you your coaching box."

I've used that a few times and it has the desired effect.

I don't pretend ACs don't exist and I will gladly answer polite questions from them at my leisure but I don't tolerate them "losing it" either.

BatteryPowered · #10 (**permalink**) Fri Feb 14, 2014, 11:48am

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Originally Posted by Welpe

Something you can say to the HC when his AC is starting to act out is "Coach, your AC is on the verge of costing you your coaching box."

I've used that a few times and it has the desired effect.

I have said that to a JV HC. He said "That is my boss, you control him. He knows better."

About two trips later I controlled him. JV coach gave him a look, shook his head and took a seat.

Welpe · #11 (**permalink**) Fri Feb 14, 2014, 11:54am

Ouch. Not the first time I've heard of the V HC showing up the JV game and tipping over the apple cart. Happens quite often in football around here.

MD Longhorn · #12 (**permalink**) Fri Feb 14, 2014, 11:57am

Don't respond to AC comments that are made in anger or while "going nuts". Address the HC as described above. (The idea that the AC gets more leash at games below varsity is the opposite of anything I've ever heard). Personally, I think you may have waited one step too long on the T here... AC goes nuts - T or at least warn HC - definitely don't address his complaint.

j51969 · #13 (**permalink**) Fri Feb 14, 2014, 12:24pm

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Originally Posted by MD Longhorn

Don't respond to AC comments that are made in anger or while "going nuts". Address the HC as described above. (The idea that the AC gets more leash at games below varsity is the opposite of anything I've ever heard). Personally, I think you may have waited one step too long on the T here... AC goes nuts - T or at least warn HC - definitely don't address his complaint.

Any HC that is losing it during the JV is probably on the verge of a nervous breakdown. Snippy comments when you’re in the area is what is normally the case (they just go ignored). However, assistants are what they are during your game. Usually, a quick re-direction to the JV HC that it’s his responsibility to maintain bench decorum has worked for me in the past.

Terrapins Fan · #14 (**permalink**) Fri Feb 14, 2014, 12:45pm

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Originally Posted by Welpe

I don't pretend ACs don't exist and I will gladly answer polite questions from them at my leisure but I don't tolerate them "losing it" either.

I was taught, "we talk to ONLY the head coach". I believe that is an excellent rule. It's a fine line from a question to a comment and it only get worse from there. JMO.

Give them an inch.....

Welpe · #15 (**permalink**) Fri Feb 14, 2014, 12:50pm

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Originally Posted by Terrapins Fan

I was taught, "we talk to ONLY the head coach". I believe that is an excellent rule. It's a fine line from a question to a comment and it only get worse from there. JMO.

Give them an inch.....

As I said, as long as they are being cordial, I will talk with them. I like to treat ACs like human beings. After all, some of them eventually become HCs.