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Old Sat Aug 16, 2003, 09:43am
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I for one do not like to use a 2-point signal. If questioned, my response is that if the shot was a "3", it would have been signaled as such.
I agree. This is a great team-building technique. Whenever possible you should respond to your partners (on the floor or at the score bench) by snottily reasuring them that if you didn't signal something, it didn't happen. It builds a tremendous sense of confidence on their part to know that you'll never miss anything and they needn't question you about any situation, no matter how ambiguous or doubtful. It rewards what little initiative they might show in asking seemingly legitimate questions with a warm feeling to know that you're willing to educate them in such a fashion. In fact, you might want to use this technique as part of your pre-game conference to assure your partners that they needn't communicate with you on any point whatsoever. It certainly saves time and allows everyone to focus more on their primary responsibility. Yep, I intend to use this technique more!
Sorry BITS but that's a poor response. Mlancaster was expressing that it's a poor mechanic to siganl a 2, when not signaling a 3 should sufficently indicate that the basket is a 2. It has nothing to do with communicating in the manner in which you suggest. It's simply something the scorer should already know.
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I'll add to JR's reply. he is absolutely correct. If you fail to signal a 3, it is a correctable error. You cannot come back 10 minutes later and say, "Wait! That was a 3." As he said, it's not a scoring error. it's an error by the official for failing to signal. In the play described, the official was perfectly justified in stopping the game and correcting the situation.
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Old Sat Aug 16, 2003, 11:24am
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Sorry BITS but that's a poor response. Mlancaster was expressing that it's a poor mechanic to siganl a 2, when not signaling a 3 should sufficently indicate that the basket is a 2. It has nothing to do with communicating in the manner in which you suggest. It's simply something the scorer should already know.
[/B][/QUOTE]Gotta agree fully with that.The only time that an official should signal a 2 is if he is the calling official,and there might be some doubt as to whether it should be a 2 or 3. Otherwise,no signal ever for a 2, That's the proper mechanic to use,and that's all that mlancaster was pointing out.
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Old Sat Aug 16, 2003, 12:41pm
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Sorry BITS but that's a poor response. Mlancaster was expressing that it's a poor mechanic to siganl a 2, when not signaling a 3 should sufficently indicate that the basket is a 2. It has nothing to do with communicating in the manner in which you suggest. It's simply something the scorer should already know.
Yeah, you're right. It was late and I was feeling cranky Sorry, Mlancaster.
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Old Sat Aug 16, 2003, 03:26pm
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Ok, even though it is Friday at 5:00 and I have other things to be drin..er doing I looked and I see that per NFHS rules this is a correctable error which can only be corrected in the appropriate time period. The NCAA book is less precise or at least I don't find where it fits under their correctable error rule. I am still going to correct this 'scoring mistake' (my definition) anytime I discover it, until my supervisors tell me otherwise, just common sense, imo.
If the official signals a "three", and the scorer records it as a "two", that's a scorer's error and can be corrrected anytime.

If the official signals a two when s/he should have signalled a three (or, more accurately, doesn't signal a three when s/he should have), that's an official's error and a correctable error -- it can only be corrected in the appropriate time-frame. This is the play being discussed in this thread.
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Old Mon Aug 18, 2003, 10:15am
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No worries...I think we all got the point!!!!!
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