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			Yeah ... both videos were unnecessarily long to get the point across to us.  Re the last... harsh...
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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	In your clip of the first T, blue looks like they started getting chippy because they were getting beat, right before the T there was a big blue push up top that probably should have been called. It just kind of escalated from there. W23 looks like he plays with a chip, which is fine, but it backfires sometimes. This one makes the second one make more sense. You have a blow out game that has already gotten chippy, the officials weren't going to let a fight break out, so whack W23 and send him packing when he starts barking the second time. I don't have a problem with it. It really depends on what was said on the second one, especially if he threatened anyone or called someone a name.  | 
		
		
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			That's really interesting - and surprising - to me, Bob, since both terms are in the books and entail doing different things with the recipient of the action word.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			Sorry everybody.This was video from a parent standing on the very top row of the bleachers.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			I bet initially that was pretty painful. Both for officials and getting clock personnel to operate it properly. Do you guys play by NCAA or FED rules?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			California (at least SoCal) is FED and it wasn't or isn't painful. NY state uses shot clock but the difference between the two is that SoCal we do a full reset on ANY kick ball (at least as of 2011, when I left the state) and in NY its a reset to 15 on ANY kick ball violation where the shot clock is at 14 or less.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			Its not painful at all as long as the host school provides a competent shot clock operator and all of Cal is Fed.In fact it very rarely is an issue.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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