Backcourt ruling?

[Mo-Money]

I cannot find the ruling in the book or a scenario of any similar plays that would help me clarifies whether this is backcourt or not.

A1 is dribbling in his/her frontcourt. A1 then passes the ball which gets deflected by B1 into the air and crosses the midcourt line but before the ball touches the floor A1 runs to the backcourt and catches the ball before it hits the floor. Is this backcourt or not?

The trail official gives the new tip mechanic to let everyone know that the ball is fair game to either player.

I say its backcourt but my partner said no because it was tipped by the defensive player.
If this is a backcourt violation can you please give me a reference that supports the ruling.

[just another ref]

In order for it to be a violation it has to be last touched by the offense in the FC and first touched by the offense in BC, in spite of a recent interp to the contrary. This was not the case in your play.

[Mo-Money]

My understanding is that the ball is still in front court status since it did not touch the floor. Once A1 catches the ball, he is now the first and last person to touch it therefore, its backcourt.

[deecee]

Originally Posted by Mo-Money

My understanding is that the ball is still in front court status since it did not touch the floor. Once A1 catches the ball, he is now the first and last person to touch it therefore, its backcourt.

Who was the last to touch the ball in the FC? The defense. A player cannot be FC and BC at the same time.

[BryanV21]

You just have to ask yourself two questions...

1. Who, the offense or defense, was the last to touch the ball in the FC?

2. Who, the offense or defense, was the first to touch the ball in the BC?

If the answer to both of those questions is the offense, then you have yourself a violation. If not... play on.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Mo-Money

My understanding is that the ball is still in front court status since it did not touch the floor. Once A1 catches the ball, he is now the first and last person to touch it therefore, its backcourt.

Originally Posted by deecee

Who was the last to touch the ball in the FC? The defense. A player cannot be FC and BC at the same time.

Originally Posted by BryanV21

You just have to ask yourself two questions...

1. Who, the offense or defense, was the last to touch the ball in the FC?

2. Who, the offense or defense, was the first to touch the ball in the BC?

If the answer to both of those questions is the offense, then you have yourself a violation. If not... play on.

All of you are making the same error.

The rule is not who is the last to touch the ball IN the frontcourt but who was the last to touch the ball BEFORE it gained backcourt status (not when it gained backcourt status).

Likewise, it is about who is the first to touch the ball AFTER it gains backcourt status, not who is the first to touch the ball IN the backcourt.

Much of the time, it it the same thing, but not always....and the difference matters. Plus, the difference is why the above play is not a violation.

[Adam]

Frankly, I wouldn't hold it against anyone either way. Aside from the interp, though (which is how old now?), there's no justification for calling this a violation. In fact, the rule is quite clearly the opposite.

It's as if they added an interpretation that stated it was a travel to lift the pivot foot. It's contrary to the rule as written.

[Toren]

Originally Posted by Adam

It's as if they added an interpretation that stated it was a travel to lift the pivot foot. It's contrary to the rule as written.

And sometimes it is.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Toren

And sometimes it is.

Never without any further action.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by Toren

And sometimes it is.

When?

[Toren]

Originally Posted by Welpe

When?

4-43-3 c

But let's not digress...we were just playing word games.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Toren

But let's not digress...

Too late.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by Toren

4-43-3 c

But let's not digress...we were just playing word games.

I figured that's what you meant.

That is Adam's whole point though (at least I think it is), just lifting the pivot is not a travel. An interpretation saying as much would be the same as this interpretation on backcourt.

(And it's 4-44-3-c this year )