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Old Thu Jan 30, 2014, 04:53pm
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I know earlier I said I would ignore any fan chant and allow game managment to hear it and handle it on their own but I guess I didn't consider the extreme. That being said, I cannot imagine a scenario where the game managment isn't all over something like this before I even can turn to look at them. Still wouldn't T tho, just get the offender out, entire section if needed.

Just to throw another angle out there, what if a chant was directed towards you as the official? Would you acknowledge (get game managment, or T if you feel that route is appropriate) in that situation. This discussion reminded me of a state playoff game I played in when I was in HS, opponents student section chanted "A rope, a tree, hang the referee!" for a solid 20-30 secs.
We said that all the time in high school. I'd probably laugh. Actually, the chant is, "A rope. A tree. All we need is a referee."
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Old Thu Jan 30, 2014, 04:55pm
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We said that all the time in high school. I'd probably laugh. Actually, the chant is, "A rope. A tree. All we need is a referee."
Haha me as well, that is the only time I ever heard that in my life though. I went to high school outside of Philadelphia and this game was somewhere in Central PA....I remember on the way home us all saying "these country kids are crazy!!!"
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Old Thu Jan 30, 2014, 04:59pm
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I know earlier I said I would ignore any fan chant and allow game managment to hear it and handle it on their own but I guess I didn't consider the extreme. That being said, I cannot imagine a scenario where the game managment isn't all over something like this before I even can turn to look at them. Still wouldn't T tho, just get the offender out, entire section if needed.

Just to throw another angle out there, what if a chant was directed towards you as the official? Would you acknowledge (get game managment, or T if you feel that route is appropriate) in that situation. This discussion reminded me of a state playoff game I played in when I was in HS, opponents student section chanted "A rope, a tree, hang the referee!" for a solid 20-30 secs.
I do nothing. I have on rare occasion acknowledged a few clever one's at a time-out. When cell phones became more popular I heard one kid say "Hey Ref, I found your cell phone and it has 3 missed calls!" I looked at him and said, "That's was a good one"
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Old Thu Jan 30, 2014, 05:01pm
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Old Fri Jan 31, 2014, 03:13pm
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Rich, you said -
"If your state or your association makes this decision, fine.

If you're making this decision on your own, you're a loose cannon."

Perhaps I mis-understood you. I will edit your post slightly below.

"If one's state or association makes this decision, fine.

If one makes this decision on their own, they're a loose cannon."

The other way, it sounded like you were speaking directly to Nevada. And I simply meant, don't be discouraged, stick to it. After all, calling someone a loose cannon is certainly discouraging them from continuing.
The point is, I would discourage someone from making this call absent explicit instructions to do so from those who control your schedule. Nevadaref is sufficiently established in his locale, I don't think he's too concerned. Further, this is a once-in-a-career call at most, so how you handle this isn't nearly as important as the fact that you handled it.

I will say,though, the odds of getting in trouble for calling the T are far greater than the odds of getting into trouble for just having them removed.
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Old Fri Jan 31, 2014, 03:18pm
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The point is, I would discourage someone from making this call absent explicit instructions to do so from those who control your schedule. Nevadaref is sufficiently established in his locale, I don't think he's too concerned. Further, this is a once-in-a-career call at most, so how you handle this isn't nearly as important as the fact that you handled it.

I will say,though, the odds of getting in trouble for calling the T are far greater than the odds of getting into trouble for just having them removed.
I was working a HS boys playoff game about 7-8 years ago when a ball ended up in the stands. A student took the ball and threw it into the back of one of the visiting players.

My partner called a technical foul on the crowd. It was as good of a call as the one he made on a certain YouTube video that seems to get posted every other week.
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Old Thu Jan 30, 2014, 01:17pm
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No. I compared being called a loose cannon early in a 'cause', which is an attempt to shout down/discourage Nevada's point, to the same negative reactions these persons faced for their 'causes'. 'Causes' that would have been forgotten had they not stuck to it.
No one is trying to shout Nevada down.
1. It's not possible.
2. It's not necessary.

We are, however, expressing our disagreement with him. The fact that the disagreement is nearly universal does not mean we're trying to silence him.
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