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Adam Mon Jan 27, 2014 01:37am

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Originally Posted by deecee (Post 920008)
I don't know about you but this caseplay is absolutely ludicrous. The penalty is hey kid leave but you can finish shooting your free throws. THEN we will just inbound it to your opponents. So no real penalty at all, except he/she sits a tick.

That's the only penalty any other time.

APG Mon Jan 27, 2014 02:18am

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Originally Posted by deecee (Post 920008)
I don't know about you but this caseplay is absolutely ludicrous. The penalty is hey kid leave but you can finish shooting your free throws. THEN we will just inbound it to your opponents. So no real penalty at all, except he/she sits a tick.

As opposed to what else?

If you were to just to direct the free thrower to be replaced immediately, you could have Team A's coach possibly send a better free throw shooter to the line.

The case book play will see that Team B is also guaranteed the ball after the FT.

jeremy341a Mon Jan 27, 2014 11:12am

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Originally Posted by deecee (Post 920008)
I don't know about you but this caseplay is absolutely ludicrous. The penalty is hey kid leave but you can finish shooting your free throws. THEN we will just inbound it to your opponents. So no real penalty at all, except he/she sits a tick.

Don't they also lose the chance at an offensive rebound? To me it seems this is a greater penalty than normal.

deecee Mon Jan 27, 2014 03:53pm

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Originally Posted by jeremy341a (Post 920037)
Don't they also lose the chance at an offensive rebound? To me it seems this is a greater penalty than normal.

Ya I didn't think this through apparently :o

Nevadaref Wed Jan 29, 2014 11:45am

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Originally Posted by johnny d (Post 919985)
I disagree. I do not think the case play covers the situation of a player wearing illegal equipment. The case play is specific for a player improperly wearing legal equipment. IMO, once discovered, the player should be directed to leave the game and their replacement will shoot the remaining free throw with the players lined up. I like BNRs way of handling it by just having the person remove the thing and continue play. While that method is probably the best, it is not supported by rule either. I personally would not ever choose the method APG suggested. Again, I don't think it is supported by rule, and as BNR said, I think it causes more problems than it solves.

Johnny, you are probably a darn good NCAA official, but because you do so few HS games you seem not to have kept up on some of the nuances of the rules at the NFHS level. Therefore, it would be nice if you would please stop stating with certainty that particular things aren't supported by rule when they actually are.

Here is the NFHS ruling which supports BNR's course of action:

SITUATION 2: A1 is discovered wearing an illegal headband during a live ball. RULING: Illegal player equipment shall not be worn and, if discovered, it must be removed immediately. If it cannot be removed immediately, the player is directed to leave the game. COMMENT: There is no provision to permit a player directed to leave the game to remain in the game by assessing a technical foul or granting a time-out. (3-3-4; 3-3-5)

Source: 2010-11 NFHS Interpretations

Nevadaref Wed Jan 29, 2014 11:47am

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Originally Posted by deecee (Post 920073)
Ya I didn't think this through apparently :o

Softball alert!

I'll pass. This one is just way too easy.


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