What Would YOU Do...(video)

[asdf]

Originally Posted by johnny d

There is no way the T is watching the secondary defender on this play and he shouldn't be.

What secondary defender?

After the dribbler blows past #1 above the top of the key, there's only one person in the path of the dribbler.

The T easily should have been able to jump in after the C didn't blow her whistle. He was in great position after hustling down the floor.

[Rich]

In that spot, we'd give first crack to the L. In the paint, L is king.

Your region may vary.

[deecee]

Originally Posted by Rich

In that spot, we'd give first crack to the L. In the paint, L is king.

Your region may vary.

I agree. This is L/C area for this call. The T is the last option, and IMO the worst. Makes you wonder what the C is watching.

[CountTheBasket]

Close hard and get it a little late if you need to as the T in my opinion if the C&L pass, that is too big of a "crash" to not have a whistle. It should've been called fairly easily but sometimes the brain says foul and forgets to tell the mouth to blow the whistle. I think you're better off responding to why that was blown from that area, than having to respond to why was nothing called on such a big collision.

[srp6977]

Holy cow. C was obviously asleep at the wheel. Somebody get it, but C has a perfect look, middle of the lane.

[HokiePaul]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

To be honest, I don't know what I would do if I were the Trail on that play.

Same here.

If I somehow saw the defender clearly in the play and was confident in the amount of contact (and certain that there was no "embellishing" by the defender), I could see myself making a call (player control). The T here does seem to be in a position where he could close down and make the call without it looking like the call came from too far out of the play.

But from the T position, I'm not sure I'd be focusing on the off-the ball defender to the point where I feel 100% certain in the amount of contact. In that case, I'm not going to guess at a block/charge just because I see a defender go to the floor. I'm likely to trust that my partners passed for a reason.

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by HokiePaul

Same here.

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

To be honest, I don't know what I would do if I were the Trail on that play.

You folks from VA are so polite

I was thinking virtually the same as both of you, especially Hokie. It’s obvious it’s a crash and your first instinct is to wait for a whistle. The other two don’t do anything and there’s that little bit of doubt that makes you think, “Well, maybe there’s something I’m not seeing here.” By the time you confidently say to yourself “Nah, B1 got run over,” it may be too late.

Of course, how late IS too late on this one?

[Camron Rust]

As that T from their position, probably nothing. That T had a poor view of the play with many players between them and the point of contact. Once the drive shifted to the other side of the lane, that became the C's drive. Then the defender was a secondary in the L's area.

L's call 1st.
C's call next.
T better have a better position than they had to come in for that one.

If the T was 10-15 feet more in the FC, I could see the T getting it.

[Pantherdreams]

Just based on the video as that trail I've got nothing. Assuming all other things are equal and I trust the crew I'm with.

There's no way from that deep with two others in position with eyes. They have both (imo) at that moment passed on something that looks like a crash from where I am.

Next chance we have to talk I might ask them what went on, but I'm not coming in on that from there cause without an angle on the players, arc, etc. I'm assuming there is something I've missed that is the reason they've no called it.

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by Rich

In that spot, we'd give first crack to the L. In the paint, L is king.

Your region may vary.

I like this approach.

If I'm the L in this game, I've got a PC. If I'm the C, I let the L have a heartbeat or two, and then come up with a PC. If I'm the T, and I need to get this one, then ouch!

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by asdf

What secondary defender?

After the dribbler blows past #1 above the top of the key, there's only one person in the path of the dribbler.

The T easily should have been able to jump in after the C didn't blow her whistle. He was in great position after hustling down the floor.

The person that was trying to take a charge. Right or wrong in many circles this is considered a secondary defender. The dribbler beat two blue players to get to the lane. That is also the definition that is used at higher levels.

Peace

I've been told that everyone in transition is a secondary defender.

Regarding the original question: I don't mind T stepping in here with a late whistle but I'm not going to fault him for not doing so. Looks like defender has and maintains LGP, offensive player went to-and-through, charge.

[Rich]

When clinicians talk about being a strong center, this is a pretty good example -- although it shouldn't take a terribly strong center to get this one.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Rich

When clinicians talk about being a strong center, this is a pretty good example -- although it shouldn't take a terribly strong center to get this one.

+1

Makes me wonder if this C is new to the level of this game.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by AremRed

I've been told that everyone in transition is a secondary defender.

That's part of the NCAAW definition -- if not the "standard English" definition:

Art. 2. In a fast-break situation, any defensive player(s) initially shall be a
secondary defender.