The Official Forum - Good question from young ref

The Official Forum (https://forum.officiating.com/)

- Basketball (https://forum.officiating.com/basketball/)

- - Good question from young ref (https://forum.officiating.com/basketball/9686-good-question-young-ref.html)

Quote:

Originally posted by Mark Padgett
No, the young ref isn't me - DUH! It's one of the HS kids that works my rec league. He has officiated only one season, so I thought this was a pretty good question to come from such an inexperienced ref. Here it is:

A1 is holding the ball in frontcourt. He is being guarded by B1, who has the heel of one of his feet on the OOB line. A1 pivots and steps on the toe of B1's foot (the one that is touching OOB) with his non-pivot foot. If B1's foot was not in the way, A1 would not be touching OOB.

What is the call, if any?

Lets tweak this play. Instead of A1's foot touching B1's foot, what do we have if any part of B1 touches the ball while A1 is holding the ball?

Quote:

Originally posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

Lets tweak this play. Instead of A1's foot touching B1's foot, what do we have if any part of B1 touches the ball while A1 is holding the ball?

Quote:

Originally posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

Lets tweak this play. Instead of A1's foot touching B1's foot, what do we have if any part of B1 touches the ball while A1 is holding the ball?

Same thing - 7.1.2(B) - A1, while dribbling, touches B1 who is standing on a sideline. Ruling - A1 is inbounds. However, if the ball in control of A1 touches B1, the ball is out of bounds . . .

Where it touches B1 doesn't matter - just as long as he touches it.

Quote:

Originally posted by Jurassic Referee

Quote:

Originally posted by Mark Dexter

Ah, yes, the persons responsible for sacking the persons responsible for that message has just been sacked.

[/B]

Tsktsktsk! Shouldn't that be "have" instead of "has", Mr.SpellingLanguageDictionGrammar Person?

Unfortunately,the scholarship monies that your friends on this Forum had quietly raised for you will now be directed to a more able candidate. [/B][/QUOTE]

Ahem.

Upon advice from counsel, I will be using the Ross Perot Guide to Answering Embarassing Questions:

Quote:

I lie.
I simply, boldly falsify.
I look the other fella' in the eye,
And just deny, deny, deny.
I lie.

Re: Re: DISCLAIMER!!

Quote:

Originally posted by Jurassic Referee

[/B]

ChuckChuckChuckChuckChuck!After all the times that I've stuck up for your whistle-blowing,BoSox-loving,peepee-impaired,short l'il New England a$$? No wonder Dan is saying those things about ya behind your back! Can't blame him!
[/B][/QUOTE]
Let me go on record as saying that I did not make the above post. BktBallRef has obviously stolen my password and used my user name to degrade and insult my good friend, Chuck Elias.

You should be ashamed of yourself, Tony!

Re: Re: Re: DISCLAIMER!!

Quote:

Originally posted by Jurassic Referee

Quote:

Originally posted by Jurassic Referee

ChuckChuckChuckChuckChuck!After all the times that I've stuck up for your whistle-blowing,BoSox-loving,peepee-impaired,short l'il New England a$$? No wonder Dan is saying those things about ya behind your back! Can't blame him!
[/B]

Let me go on record as saying that I did not make the above post. BktBallRef has obviously stolen my password and used my user name to degrade and insult my good friend, Chuck Elias.

You should be ashamed of yourself, Tony! [/B][/QUOTE]

Well, as long as we're playing 'pass the blame,' it really wasn't me who posted the grammatically incorrect version of a Monty Python paraphrase. While the matter is still under investigation, I suspect that Juulie stole my password and posted that so that she could be known as the sole grammar Nazi of the board.

Re: Re: Re: Re: DISCLAIMER!!

Quote:

Originally posted by Mark Dexter
[/B]

Well, as long as we're playing 'pass the blame,' it really wasn't me who posted the grammatically incorrect version of a Monty Python paraphrase. While the matter is still under investigation, I suspect that Juulie stole my password and posted that so that she could be known as the sole grammar Nazi of the board. [/B][/QUOTE]Hmmmph! I can believe it!

Wimmen!

Re: Re: Re: Re: DISCLAIMER!!

Quote:

Originally posted by Mark Dexter
..it really wasn't me who posted the grammatically incorrect version of a Monty Python paraphrase. While the matter is still under investigation, I suspect that Juulie stole my password and posted that so that she could be known as the sole grammar Nazi of the board.

I confess it all. It's been so tough living in the shadow of Genevieve Cole, my grandmother, who was sought out by publishers and writers to correct manuscripts and teach proper grammar. I've scolded, reprimanded, and cajoled for years; I've studied, slaved and labored over Henry Fielding, Jane Austen and Charles Dickens to study the history of the use of daily language. I have always hoped to establish my own reputation as Grammar Nazi Par Excellence, and it's so frustrating to see this young punk just step in and heedlessly, non-chalantly take over!! It's not fair!! I've earned it, I've worked for it, and no one is going to deprive me of it No ONE, do you hear me?!? I, I , I am going to rule the grammar world single-handedly, because I AM THE BEST!!!

Ha..Ha..Ha Ha Hahahaha..Take this Mark Dexter, you Tyro, you NeoPhyte -- can you tell off the top of your head the Plu-Perfect Subjunctive of the verb, to screw? Can you spot the five run-on sentences in Dickens' Bleak House? Can you recite the longest sentence in the English language in which all grammar rules of the author's contemporaries were strictly observed? I didn't think so. No one will ever understand these things after I'm gone.. it's all so unfair...

Okay...

I'll go quietly; I'm so sorry, so sorry, I never meant to hurt anyone. Dexter, just remember: the slavish avoidance of the gerund clause is the most telling mark of a student. And remember who taught you that...

...and someone please send tapes of the women's NCAA final four. I'll miss you all so much..

[Edited by rainmaker on Aug 12th, 2003 at 03:10 PM]

I saw Juulie this past Saturday. She definitely is off her meds.

At least, that's what the majority of the voices in my head observed. http://e4u.consoleradar.com/crazy/686.gif

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: DISCLAIMER!!

Quote:

Originally posted by rainmaker
[/B]

Ha..Ha..Ha Ha Hahahaha..Take this Mark Dexter, you Tyro, you NeoPhyte -- can you tell off the top of your head the Plu-Perfect Subjunctive of the verb, to screw?

[/B][/QUOTE]Whoooooa!!

This one oughta be good for at least 4 more pages now! :D

I'll keep score.

Quote:

Originally posted by Mark Padgett
I saw Juulie this past Saturday. She definitely is off her meds.

At least, that's what the majority of the voices in my head observed. http://e4u.consoleradar.com/crazy/686.gif

Mark -- I think they must have put something in the donuts!!

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: DISCLAIMER!!

Quote:

Originally posted by rainmaker

...and someone please send tapes of the women's NCAA final four. I'll miss you all so much..

[Edited by rainmaker on Aug 12th, 2003 at 03:10 PM]

ROFTLMAO.

On a related note, I'm going to start taking up a collection. All proceeds will go toward getting Juulie a babysitter and plane tickets to a nice tropical island somewhere.

Quote:

Did the voices reach a concensus? :p

Quote:

Originally posted by rainmaker
Can you tell off the top of your head the Plu-Perfect Subjunctive of the verb, to screw?

The closest I can come up with is "had have screwed". Example, "If he'd have screwed up that call, the coach would've gone ballistic."

Am I close?

See also: "The Return of an English pluperfect subjunctive?" by Trevor G. Fennell at http://ehlt.flinders.edu.au/deptlang...rs/fennell.pdf

Enjoy. :)

Quote:

Originally posted by Mark Dexter
[/B]

Did the voices reach a concensus?
[/B][/QUOTE]Concensus???

Mr.Spelling's head just exploded!