A new one for me

Raymond · #1 (**permalink**) Fri Dec 20, 2013, 11:32am

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Originally Posted by SWMOzebra

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Turns out, H HC is telling him the crew from Tuesday night kicked a rule in the game (which her team lost by 14 after having a 6 point halftime lead). ...

That coach knows full well that any situations like that are to be addressed to the Supervisor of Officials and the Conference Commissioner.

She was totally out-of-line. If I were there, I'm pretty sure I would have told her directly, "address this with our supervisor, what you are doing now is inappropriate."

rockyroad · #2 (**permalink**) Fri Dec 20, 2013, 11:38am

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

That coach knows full well that any situations like that are to be addressed to the Supervisor of Officials and the Conference Commissioner.

She was totally out-of-line. If I were there, I'm pretty sure I would have told her directly, "address this with our supervisor, what you are doing now is inappropriate."

Me, too...and I would be calling the supervisor immediately after the game to let him/her know about it - before the Visting Coach does!

SWMOzebra · #3 (**permalink**) Fri Dec 20, 2013, 11:38am

I know from reading the R report on Arbiter this morning that this situation showed up there. Also, the U2 indicated he would be calling our supervisor while driving home and filling him in on what happened. He (U2) claimed to be so surprised that the coach was doing what she did ... he said he just wasn't sure what he should say.

FWIW, I agree the R and I should have jumped in sooner and ended the conversation.

Adam · #4 (**permalink**) Fri Dec 20, 2013, 12:00pm

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Originally Posted by SWMOzebra

I know from reading the R report on Arbiter this morning that this situation showed up there. Also, the U2 indicated he would be calling our supervisor while driving home and filling him in on what happened. He (U2) claimed to be so surprised that the coach was doing what she did ... he said he just wasn't sure what he should say.

FWIW, I agree the R and I should have jumped in sooner and ended the conversation.

Curious, what was the rule that was kicked?

MD Longhorn · #5 (**permalink**) Fri Dec 20, 2013, 12:26pm

No one considers a T here? After the officials are in charge, we're letting a coach go across the court and down a hallway to yell at an official? Really?

If I'm U2, I don't have this conversation and get back on the court. "Coach, we're not discussing this right now" is the only thing I'm likely to say. If I'm partner, as soon as I see coach pass me, I'm following (assuming it's somewhat obvious she's headed to my partner).

Equating this to baseball or softball - coach that comes to the plate conference bitching about last game is going to get VERY few words out of their mouth before being sent packing.

JetMetFan · #6 (**permalink**) Fri Dec 20, 2013, 12:30pm

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Originally Posted by MD Longhorn

No one considers a T here? After the officials are in charge, we're letting a coach go across the court and down a hallway to yell at an official? Really?

Oh, that went without saying for me (obviously

). As far as I'm concerned the T comes when/if she doesn't get away from me.

BatteryPowered · #7 (**permalink**) Fri Dec 20, 2013, 12:33pm

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Originally Posted by MD Longhorn

No one considers a T here? After the officials are in charge, we're letting a coach go across the court and down a hallway to yell at an official? Really?

If I'm U2, I don't have this conversation and get back on the court. "Coach, we're not discussing this right now" is the only thing I'm likely to say. If I'm partner, as soon as I see coach pass me, I'm following (assuming it's somewhat obvious she's headed to my partner).

Equating this to baseball or softball - coach that comes to the plate conference bitching about last game is going to get VERY few words out of their mouth before being sent packing.

I actually did...but figured it was my Cajun temper getting the best of me. I try to keep it under control when on the court and am usually successful. But then again, if an attempt to stop the conversation was unsuccessful and she continued I would issue the T and chalk it up to what Ron White says..."You can't fix stupid."

walt · #8 (**permalink**) Fri Dec 20, 2013, 01:18pm

Call the supervisor immediately. What happened was totally inappropriate and you need to report it before someone else does.

SWMOzebra · #9 (**permalink**) Fri Dec 20, 2013, 03:44pm

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Originally Posted by Adam

Curious, what was the rule that was kicked?

Not exactly a rule ... but apparently what happened is ball in V front court early in second half and jump ball was called, AP arrow indicated H team possession. Unfortunately, H team received the ball to begin the second half and the arrow was not switched. Officials come together and determine arrow is incorrect, ball stays with V team.

During this mess, the shot clock was reset and no one caught it. V team inbounded the ball with a fresh 30 and eventually got a score before she could get anyone's attention. She wanted the crew to wipe the points and completely reset the play. Coach was trying to tell U2 there was a case book play which supported her argument.

Adam · #10 (**permalink**) Fri Dec 20, 2013, 04:01pm

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Originally Posted by SWMOzebra

Not exactly a rule ... but apparently what happened is ball in V front court early in second half and jump ball was called, AP arrow indicated H team possession. Unfortunately, H team received the ball to begin the second half and the arrow was not switched. Officials come together and determine arrow is incorrect, ball stays with V team.

During this mess, the shot clock was reset and no one caught it. V team inbounded the ball with a fresh 30 and eventually got a score before she could get anyone's attention. She wanted the crew to wipe the points and completely reset the play. Coach was trying to tell U2 there was a case book play which supported her argument.

Wow. Shot clock error, but a minor one.

I wouldn't imagine being able to have a "do-over". Tell me she's talking out of her arse.

Raymond · #11 (**permalink**) Fri Dec 20, 2013, 04:56pm

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Originally Posted by Adam

Wow. Shot clock error, but a minor one.

I wouldn't imagine being able to have a "do-over". Tell me she's talking out of her arse.

I believe (maybe) that if the error were discovered at some point after the shot clock should have expired and before V scored, then the violation could have been enforced.

bob jenkins · #12 (**permalink**) Fri Dec 20, 2013, 11:10pm

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I believe (maybe) that if the error were discovered at some after the shot clock should have expired and before V scored, then the violation could have been enforced.

That's my understanding.

johnny d · #13 (**permalink**) Sat Dec 21, 2013, 01:33am

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Originally Posted by SWMOzebra

completely reset the play.

Without spoon feeding you the answer as to what should have been done, I am fairly certain we can all agree that this part is never an option.

SWMOzebra · #14 (**permalink**) Sun Dec 22, 2013, 12:38pm

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Without spoon feeding you the answer as to what should have been done, I am fairly certain we can all agree that this part is never an option.

No need for any spoon-feeding ... I thought the

at the end of my last post would have indicated I thought the H HC was out of her mind thinking that A) this was even an option; or B) that there is actually a case play to support her argument.