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Old Wed Dec 18, 2013, 02:51pm
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You really think so?

In two person, why would the T be below the free throw line extended? That's where he would set up as C in a 3 person crew. I really think it's 3 person...which makes him even more of a doofus for reaching that far across through all those players.
Why would he reach across the lane that far through all of those bodies to get a borderline travel and look like a doofus waving the foul off? You can figure out his skill level/experience from the video, so I don't think it's a stretch to say he might be out of position as the Trail.

Not trying to be a dick, just saying...
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Old Wed Dec 18, 2013, 03:49pm
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Why would he reach across the lane that far through all of those bodies to get a borderline travel and look like a doofus waving the foul off? You can figure out his skill level/experience from the video, so I don't think it's a stretch to say he might be out of position as the Trail.

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Don't think you are being a dick at all.

Just think they are working 3 person really poorly.
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Old Wed Dec 18, 2013, 06:39pm
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Does 'T' (or 'C') official ever raise his hand? What did the defender do wrong?
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Old Wed Dec 18, 2013, 09:15pm
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Does 'T' (or 'C') official ever raise his hand? What did the defender do wrong?
This looks like a situation where the Trail official (white hair) has assumed the role of veteran to the Lead's "Newbie". The T doesn't raise his hand (or fist) to stop the clock. The T may not have had a call at all...or maybe he did. But it appears that the T does think he knows what his much younger partner is about to call (PC maybe)...and he seems to be signaling him not to report his call. Instead the T reports the Travel. At least that's what it looks like to me.

But the shoes do look like crap.
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Old Wed Dec 18, 2013, 11:44pm
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I can't see anything to call from the camera view...travel? maybe (probably not). Block, not likely either. PC, maybe, but not likely either. OOB, yep.
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Old Fri Dec 20, 2013, 10:31am
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I can't see anything to call from the camera view...travel? maybe (probably not). Block, not likely either. PC, maybe, but not likely either. OOB, yep.
Exactly my thoughts.
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Old Fri Dec 20, 2013, 12:16pm
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Exactly my thoughts.
I don't have enough to call a travel just from this video, although I'm willing to bet that if I did have the right angle that the player did (lifted the pivot foot before starting the dribble).
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Old Sat Dec 21, 2013, 01:22pm
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The T doesn't raise his hand (or fist) to stop the clock. The T may not have had a call at all...or maybe he did.
I agree, this looks bad. That's why, in these parts, we're required to raise an open hand before all violations. If I have a fist up, I want my partner to have a open hand, if he has something different. Then, we can talk about it.

Ultimately, we reached the right destination, but it was a bumpy ride.
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Old Sat Dec 21, 2013, 01:47pm
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I agree, this looks bad. That's why, in these parts, we're required to raise an open hand before all violations. If I have a fist up, I want my partner to have a open hand, if he has something different. Then, we can talk about it.

Ultimately, we reached the right destination, but it was a bumpy ride.
Isn't this a requirement in all parts?

If in your part, someone doesn't raise their arm, then what?
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Old Sat Dec 21, 2013, 02:02pm
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I agree, this looks bad. That's why, in these parts, we're required to raise an open hand before all violations.
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Isn't this a requirement in all parts? If in your part, someone doesn't raise their arm, then what?
I don't officiate in a part, but rather, in a little corner. And, we are expected to put up an open hand on all violations. The penalty if we don't? Lower peer ratings. Lower ranking. Lower level games instead of higher level games. Fewer assignments. Lighter wallet.
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Old Sat Dec 21, 2013, 02:08pm
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Isn't this a requirement in all parts?
No. We are permitted to directly to the direction on OOB calls.
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Old Wed Dec 18, 2013, 07:23pm
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Anyone here wear a watch when working basketball games?

I don't, regardless of what season it is. Honestly, and I'm probably judging too harshly, that's all I need to see.
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Anyone here wear a watch when working basketball games?
Nope.......or a belt either!
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Old Wed Dec 18, 2013, 10:17pm
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Anyone here wear a watch when working basketball games?
How else would we time eight minutes, ten seconds, three seconds, five seconds, thirty seconds, sixty seconds, etc.

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Anyone here wear a watch when working basketball games?

I don't, regardless of what season it is. Honestly, and I'm probably judging too harshly, that's all I need to see.
My PERCEPTION of that official is not very positive.
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