What rule would you change?

[BillyMac]

NFHS 9-3-3: A player shall not leave the court for an unauthorized reason.
PENALTY: (Section 3) The ball is dead when the violation occurs and is awarded to the opponents for a throw in from the designated out-of-bounds spot nearest the violation. (See 6-7-9 Exception d)

NFHS 10-3-2: A player shall not: Purposely and/or deceitfully delay returning after legally being out of bounds.
PENALTY: (Section 3) Two free throws plus ball for division-line throw-in.

Change 10-3-2 from a technical foul to a violation. Purposely and/or deceitfully delay returning after legally being out of bounds should carry the same penalty as leaving the court for an unauthorized reason.

Suggestion: NFHS 9-3-3-B: A player shall not purposely and/or deceitfully delay returning after legally being out of bounds.
PENALTY: (Section 3) The ball is dead when the violation occurs and is awarded to the opponents for a throw-in from the designated out-of-bounds spot nearest the violation. (See 6-7-9 Exception d)

Also, over the years our local interpreters have added the statement "outside the cylinder" to the goaltending definition, but that statement is not in the NFHS rulebook. So if you have a situation where a player touches the ball during a field-goal try, while it is in its downward flight, entirely above the basket ring level, while the ball is in the cylinder, and the ball has the possibility of entering the basket in flight, then, by strict interpretation of the written definition, the official can call either a goaltending violation, or a basket interference violation.

The definition of goaltending did contain this requirement (having to be outside of the imaginary cylinder) through the 2003-04 season. For some unknown reason the rule was edited, without comment, or announcement, for the 2004-05 season and that part of the definition was dropped.

2002-03 NFHS 4-22: Goaltending occurs when a player touches the ball during a field-goal try or tap while: a) the ball is in downward flight. b) the entire ball is above the level of the basket ring. c) the ball has the possibility of entering the basket in flight. d) the ball is not touching an imaginary cylinder which has the basket ring as its lower base.

2012-13 NFHS 4-22: Goaltending occurs when a player touches the ball during a field-goal try or tap while it is in its downward flight entirely above the basket ring level and has the possibility of entering the basket in flight.

This omission ("outside the cylinder") needs to be corrected.

[Scrapper1]

Delete 4-12-2d. It requires officials to call the game contrary to other rules.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

2012-13 NFHS 4-22: Goaltending occurs when a player touches the ball during a field-goal try or tap while it is in its downward flight entirely above the basket ring level and has the possibility of entering the basket in flight.

This omission ("outside the cylinder") needs to be corrected.

Why is this an omission? Why would it not be goaltending just because it has entered the cylinder?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Why is this an omission? Why would it not be goaltending just because it has entered the cylinder?

Because it would also be basket interference. Forces us to pick our poison.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Because it would also be basket interference. Forces us to pick our poison.

So what? What are your signals for the two violations?

[rlarry]

Originally Posted by just another ref

So what? What are your signals for the two violations?

I think for basket interference he signals the basket good (or not). For goaltending I believe Billy takes his belt off and waves it back and forth over his head.

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by just another ref

So what? What are your signals for the two violations?

The signals are irrelevant. Touching the ball in the cylinder is basket interference. It's not goaltending.

[rlarry]

I'd like 16 minute halfs instead of 4 quarters.

[paulsonj72]

Originally Posted by rlarry

I'd like 16 minute halfs instead of 4 quarters.

How about 18 minute halves. We do that here in MN. Of course JV(B squad and lower) are shorter but still played in halves.

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by rlarry

I'd like 16 minute halfs instead of 4 quarters.

How about 8 minute halves?

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

Touching the ball in the cylinder is basket interference.

Unless it's on its downward flight, in which case it is (also) goaltending.

As mentioned above, so what?

If a player lifts his pivot and places it back down out of bounds, which is it, out of bounds or traveling?

[frezer11]

I'm the same with previous, headband/jersey colors, logos, etc.

Also, I would get rid of pre-game dunking being a T. If it's a shot you might actually make in a game, you should be able to practice it.

And how about getting rid of AP arrow! Jump ball between the two who tied it up man, makes things more exciting!!

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by just another ref

If a player lifts his pivot and places it back down out of bounds, which is it, out of bounds or traveling?

The basket interference/goaltending multiple violation "choice" can be easily fixed. I'm not sure that this one (above) can be easily fixed, unless the NFHS comes up with a casebook play that tells us which violation to call.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by just another ref

If a player lifts his pivot and places it back down out of bounds, which is it, out of bounds or traveling?

Can we extrapolate from Basketball Rules Fundamental #5 (Neither ... traveling rule operates during the ...throw-in) that you can't travel out of bounds, which would make this more likely to be an out of bounds violation and, therefore, less likely to be a traveling violation? Please note the question mark at the end of my previous sentence. Yeah. I know. I'm reaching for straws here. But as far fetched as it is, let's see someone come up with a less far fetched interpretation.

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

This omission ("outside the cylinder") needs to be corrected.

I didn't even notice this until just now. It has to just be a typo.