Maybe, just maybe, coaching is not your forte

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Welpe

I know we've been through this as a forum a few times but....

If the buzzer is so close to the whistle, what time can you put on with definite knowledge?

None, unless your state has specific guidance to the contrary (or has a monitor rule)

[SNIPERBBB]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

None, unless your state has specific guidance to the contrary (or has a monitor rule)

You can put whatever you see on the clock when you blow the whistle. Else definite knowledge is meaningless.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB

You can put whatever you see on the clock when you blow the whistle. Else definite knowledge is meaningless.

Maybe I misread the play / question -- I was assuming that no one saw any time, but "there had to be some time left"

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Maybe I misread the play / question -- I was assuming that no one saw any time, but "there had to be some time left"

That's how I read it, which is why I asked the question I did.

I also agree with your answer.

[26 Year Gap]

Foul. Whistle. Immediately after whistle, horn. In other words, it was so close to being simultaneous, that it was waved off. No definite knowledge on time remaining. I was trail, tableside, so last shot responsibility was with C. FWIW, both partners agreed with the call.

We have a running clock in second half if the margin gets to 35.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by Welpe

That's how I read it, which is why I asked the question I did.

I also agree with your answer.

I took it the other way - that he knew how much time was left but decided it wasn't enough to make a difference (else why the "not enough to make a difference" comment). If, as the follow up post said, he didn't know how much time was left.. can't really do anything there, so I'd agree with you.

However, to me there's a difference between "We had no definite knowledge of how much time was left" and "we decided there wasn't enough time left to make a difference."