My worst game yet.

[RookieDude]

Games like these are like putting "lipstick on a pig"...

no matter what you do, you can't make em look good!

[SNIPERBBB]

Hmm, sounds like the JH game in front of ours, minus the booing, the same night. The varsity girls game was about as ugly, 60-70pt blowout and the boys game was a 4pt contest.

Our game was in Gallipolis how about yours?

[seohio]

Yes....same game

[Sharpshooternes]

Doing a little preseason tournament JV men's side. Just tons and tons of fouls. Double bonus by the third quarter. At least 3 fouled out. And foul count was probably 50. They just would not stop it. We let a bunch go, but it never got out of hand it. It was a twenty point blow out so not that bad score wise. Losing coach got irate when I had to call a DOG after a warning. First one, defender but not the one guarding the thrower inner steps a good foot over the line. Second, A1 is standing a ways from the line and then makes a pass toward the court except B1's hand is through the plane and contacts the ball.

Other thing he got upset about was his player was making a drive to the baker on transition has 3 defenders around the one in front has LGP easily and jumps to block the shot, straight up. Ball handler collides into the defender which I no call because he didn't really displace him. Coach complains that there "was a lot of contact on that play" "if anything it was a charge coach" "but he didn't even keep his feet" "coach the defender can jump or move any direction as long as it isn't into the ball handler. He doesn't have to be planted" He looked at me incredulously. "That's the worst explanation I have ever heard." The coach was lucky not to by a cup 'o T. I debated whacking him once when he said, "even your partner thinks your terrible." What do you think? Did that comment deserve a technical. I think it fits in the personal category now but meh, I am content either way on this one.

Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes

Doing a little preseason tournament JV men's side. Just tons and tons of fouls. Double bonus by the third quarter. At least 3 fouled out. And foul count was probably 50. They just would not stop it. We let a bunch go, but it never got out of hand it. It was a twenty point blow out so not that bad score wise. Losing coach got irate when I had to call a DOG after a warning. First one, defender but not the one guarding the thrower inner steps a good foot over the line. Second, A1 is standing a ways from the line and then makes a pass toward the court except B1's hand is through the plane and contacts the ball.

Other thing he got upset about was his player was making a drive to the baker on transition has 3 defenders around the one in front has LGP easily and jumps to block the shot, straight up. Ball handler collides into the defender which I no call because he didn't really displace him. Coach complains that there "was a lot of contact on that play" "if anything it was a charge coach" "but he didn't even keep his feet" "coach the defender can jump or move any direction as long as it isn't into the ball handler. He doesn't have to be planted" He looked at me incredulously. "That's the worst explanation I have ever heard." The coach was lucky not to by a cup 'o T. I debated whacking him once when he said, "even your partner thinks your terrible." What do you think? Did that comment deserve a technical. I think it fits in the personal category now but meh, I am content either way on this one.

Was this college or high school? Why would you call a DOG on a player not guarding the thrower?

Could have tech'd the coach as soon as he made that first comment. Second comment is automatic.

[Sharpshooternes]

Originally Posted by AremRed

Was this college or high school? Why would you call a DOG on a player not guarding the thrower?

Could have tech'd the coach as soon as he made that first comment. Second comment is automatic.

9-2-10 I called it on the player not guarding the thrower inner because the book doesn't differentiate between who is guarding the thrower. It only says that the opponent can not have any part through the plane. Doesn't say who or how far away they are, although in this case, they were close enough to be guarding the thrower.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes

9-2-10 I called it on the player not guarding the thrower inner because the book doesn't differentiate between who is guarding the thrower. It only says that the opponent can not have any part through the plane. Doesn't say who or how far away they are, although in this case, they were close enough to be guarding the thrower.

I was not there so I'm not going to comment on the plays directly, but imo you shouldn't be a plumber on these calls.

For example, if there's any doubt whether the second player broke the plane before the ball was released, let it go. As a general guideline, it should be (a) obvious that he broke the plane, and (b) early enough that you can blow the whistle while A is still holding the ball.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes

Second, A1 is standing a ways from the line and then makes a pass toward the court except B1's hand is through the plane and contacts the ball.

If the ball had been released, then this is legal.

Plus what Arem said.

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes

Doing a little preseason tournament JV men's side. Just tons and tons of fouls. Double bonus by the third quarter. At least 3 fouled out. And foul count was probably 50. They just would not stop it. We let a bunch go, but it never got out of hand it. It was a twenty point blow out so not that bad score wise. Losing coach got irate when I had to call a DOG after a warning. First one, defender but not the one guarding the thrower inner steps a good foot over the line. Second, A1 is standing a ways from the line and then makes a pass toward the court except B1's hand is through the plane and contacts the ball.

Other thing he got upset about was his player was making a drive to the baker on transition has 3 defenders around the one in front has LGP easily and jumps to block the shot, straight up. Ball handler collides into the defender which I no call because he didn't really displace him. Coach complains that there "was a lot of contact on that play" "if anything it was a charge coach" "but he didn't even keep his feet" "coach the defender can jump or move any direction as long as it isn't into the ball handler. He doesn't have to be planted" He looked at me incredulously. "That's the worst explanation I have ever heard." The coach was lucky not to by a cup 'o T. I debated whacking him once when he said, "even your partner thinks your terrible." What do you think? Did that comment deserve a technical. I think it fits in the personal category now but meh, I am content either way on this one.

Not to pile on but yeah, you bonked on the second throw-in situation (NFHS 9-2-10 – I’m assuming it was HS since you said 3rd quarter).

As for the conversation with the HC, that was way too much dialogue especially in a situation where he’s getting his rear end handed to him and is probably looking for a way to complain. First and foremost, he didn’t ask a question he made a statement. Leave that alone. If he eventually asks a reasonable question just say, “Coach, the defender had legal guarding position” and move on. If it somehow gets to the “even your partner thinks you’re terrible” line, whack him.

[Sharpshooternes]

Originally Posted by JetMetFan

Not to pile on but yeah, you bonked on the second throw-in situation (NFHS 9-2-10 – I’m assuming it was HS since you said 3rd quarter).

As for the conversation with the HC, that was way too much dialogue especially in a situation where he’s getting his rear end handed to him and is probably looking for a way to complain. First and foremost, he didn’t ask a question he made a statement. Leave that alone. If he eventually asks a reasonable question just say, “Coach, the defender had legal guarding position” and move on. If it somehow gets to the “even your partner thinks you’re terrible” line, whack him.

Sorry, I wasn't very clear. The player had his hand through the plane when the throw was released and he touched it on the outside of the plane. The DOG T was definitely warranted.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes

Other thing he got upset about was his player was making a drive to the baker on transition.

I'd be upset with my player about that too. They don't get to make dough until they get a professional contract.

[Sharpshooternes]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

I'd be upset with my player about that too. They don't get to make dough until they get a professional contract.

Stupid IPad autocorrect.