Officials positioning after calling foul in back court headed other direction

[jritchie]

Seen they have made a change and you now do not go back and get the ball to take it out if you were the lead or C and made a foul call in front court and it is now going the other direction.
Clarification:
1. If you are in lead or C, table side, call foul, report foul and you now go down court and become new lead? If correct, who replaces to take ball out?

2. If you are lead or C, opposite table and call foul, you report and now go opposite table as lead? If correct, who replaces to take ball out?

Thanks

See this post (No "No Long Switches" No More) or this post (Long Switch) for previous discussions on the topic.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by jritchie

Seen they have made a change and you now do not go back and get the ball to take it out if you were the lead or C and made a foul call in front court and it is now going the other direction.
Clarification:
1. If you are in lead or C, table side, call foul, report foul and you now go down court and become new lead? If correct, who replaces to take ball out?

2. If you are lead or C, opposite table and call foul, you report and now go opposite table as lead? If correct, who replaces to take ball out?

Thanks

If you're L, you report and stay tableside. Whoever was tableside replaces you (and by definition will become the new T). Then adjust based on which side of the lane the ball is being inbounded on to determine new L and new C.

If you're C or T, report and go back. Still adjust for the inbounds location to determine who is new C and new L. (This will be the same as it's always been; and the same as if C or T called a violation instead of a foul.)

[jritchie]

thanks

[jritchie]

I know this is how it is in the situation of a team control foul and we would change direction, but what if we were already headed in one direction and team B has full court press on Team A, Team B fouls with the New T calling the foul. Does New T come report and go back like before to administer throw in, because we are not changing direction, or will we do this long switch on everything now?

[jeremy341a]

Team A bringing ball up the court table side vs. one on one man to man pressure. The other 8 players are deep into the front court. The defender fouls the dribbler with the T making the call. Does he need to switch with the L even though he is already deep on the other end or does he not due to the play being in the backcourt?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by jritchie

I know this is how it is in the situation of a team control foul and we would change direction, but what if we were already headed in one direction and team B has full court press on Team A, Team B fouls with the New T calling the foul. Does New T come report and go back like before to administer throw in, because we are not changing direction, or will we do this long switch on everything now?

Did the L make the call or did the T make the call? That should answer your question.

[wjc3]

Here is a link to a PowerPoint from NFHS and FHSAA.
Pages 39-42 refer directly to your question.

FHSAA.org | Rules Updates for Officials - Basketball

Hope this helps,

Walter

[jeremy341a]

Thanks for the slides but I don't think they directly address my question. I was asking about a foul in the backcourt such as a pressing situation. If the T is table side and calls a foul does he still need to switch with the L who may be almost the whole court away from the foul?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by jeremy341a

Thanks for the slides but I don't think they directly address my question. I was asking about a foul in the backcourt such as a pressing situation. If the T is table side and calls a foul does he still need to switch with the L who may be almost the whole court away from the foul?

NO! the change applies to the L calling the foul. Once the play is going "the other way", that official is no longer the L, s/he's the T -- and the change does NOT apply.

[jritchie]

Just don't understand, they want us to go tableside as the lead calling the foul when going the other way, but if the C or T calls the foul opposite the table, they want them to go back and just slide down the floor and stay opposite, like we do if it was a violation, why not make it all the same and whoever calls stay table side and slide down in position.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by jritchie

Just don't understand, they want us to go tableside as the lead calling the foul when going the other way, but if the C or T calls the foul opposite the table, they want them to go back and just slide down the floor and stay opposite, like we do if it was a violation, why not make it all the same and whoever calls stay table side and slide down in position.

I *think* the issue was that too many (old) L's were not getting to the reporting area (C and T are already almost there), and / or that if L goes all the way out to the area, it makes (to them) more sense to have someone else be going back to get the game started more quickly.

Lots of ways this could be done -- this is the way they chose (for this year).

[jeremy341a]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

NO! the change applies to the L calling the foul. Once the play is going "the other way", that official is no longer the L, s/he's the T -- and the change does NOT apply.

So then the T would just do the step out, report, step back, and put the ball in play correct?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by jeremy341a

So then the T would just do the step out, report, step back, and put the ball in play correct?

Which side of the court was he on? Which side of the court is he going to? Where will the ball be put in play?

[jeremy341a]

Originally Posted by Adam

Which side of the court was he on? Which side of the court is he going to? Where will the ball be put in play?

He was table side foul was directly in front of him. Ball will be put in play on the table side, side line 5 feet from him where he makes the call.

I was just verifying the long switch only takes place if the ball is going to change directions.