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Old Fri Oct 25, 2013, 12:16pm
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I didn't want to start handing out T's like candy

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Question- what do you do in these situations where the players continue to complain, there are no coaches, and you don't want to completely destroy the flow of the game?
The flow is already destroyed, sometimes the only way to restore it is to turn into the candy man.

Sometimes it doesn't matter, you just need to hand out the candy because it's deserved. It may not fix this game, but you can bet it'll help with the next one.
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Old Fri Oct 25, 2013, 01:21pm
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Ever since reading Verbal Judo it has been easier to find way to handle these kind of things.

Lately this is what I do. We are getting ready to toss the ball for the mens game. Guys who are your captains? White 11 Blue 6 gotcha. Right there they know these guys are responsible for helping me manage their group.

Late first half starting to get some complaining. White 11 you have a moment. Tell your crew we are not discussing calls with them. If they have a concern gather it and bring it to us respectfully.

If a player does something that requires a T you just call it. It is rare if you are calling a good game that they will lift to the T level because you have respectfully found a captain, talked nicely to them and you are calling a good game. If your partner misses something talk to them and help lift their game. Let the captain know we missed that, we arent perfect we will do better, if needed.

And here is the super key to making a lot of money with Wreck mens ball and enjoying it.

Get your own partner. Tell your assignor. I work great with Scott and when I have a wreck official who doesnt care it is hard on you, the men and I dont enjoy working. So let me find my partner for next Tuesday.

Once I did this all Wreck is worth the time and sometimes it is great. When Wreck players see two partners being consistent, being respectful and working hard you tend to have very very few problems. It improves your play calling and game management and if you can handle 10 tired super stars after their long day at work it is pretty easy to handle one grumpy HS coach.

Just my two cents. Thanks for reading this wall of text.
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Old Fri Oct 25, 2013, 01:40pm
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Ever since reading Verbal Judo it has been easier to find way to handle these kind of things.

Lately this is what I do. We are getting ready to toss the ball for the mens game. Guys who are your captains? White 11 Blue 6 gotcha. Right there they know these guys are responsible for helping me manage their group.

Late first half starting to get some complaining. White 11 you have a moment. Tell your crew we are not discussing calls with them. If they have a concern gather it and bring it to us respectfully.

If a player does something that requires a T you just call it. It is rare if you are calling a good game that they will lift to the T level because you have respectfully found a captain, talked nicely to them and you are calling a good game. If your partner misses something talk to them and help lift their game. Let the captain know we missed that, we arent perfect we will do better, if needed.

And here is the super key to making a lot of money with Wreck mens ball and enjoying it.

Get your own partner. Tell your assignor. I work great with Scott and when I have a wreck official who doesnt care it is hard on you, the men and I dont enjoy working. So let me find my partner for next Tuesday.

Once I did this all Wreck is worth the time and sometimes it is great. When Wreck players see two partners being consistent, being respectful and working hard you tend to have very very few problems. It improves your play calling and game management and if you can handle 10 tired super stars after their long day at work it is pretty easy to handle one grumpy HS coach.

Just my two cents. Thanks for reading this wall of text.
Really like the idea about finding your own partner. This guy I worked with, I worked with him my first year, I think we are within one year of each other. I blocked him because he only had criticism (probably deserved) but couldn't see that he did it inappropriately and he was definitely not the picture perfect example of a great referee. He really hasn't improved since then and I have tried to give him a chance and let it go, but he doesn't help me improve my game or keep control of the hoodlums.
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Old Fri Oct 25, 2013, 02:25pm
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Really like the idea about finding your own partner. This guy I worked with, I worked with him my first year, I think we are within one year of each other. I blocked him because he only had criticism (probably deserved) but couldn't see that he did it inappropriately and he was definitely not the picture perfect example of a great referee. He really hasn't improved since then and I have tried to give him a chance and let it go, but he doesn't help me improve my game or keep control of the hoodlums.
I think BigT has some good advice if your'e working rec ball, but I would add that there are going to be some games, and leagues, where it won't matter how good a game you call or how professional you act. Turds are turds.

Don't base your assessment of your own performance on how the crybabies treat you.
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Old Fri Oct 25, 2013, 03:22pm
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Really like the idea about finding your own partner. This guy I worked with, I worked with him my first year, I think we are within one year of each other. I blocked him because he only had criticism (probably deserved) but couldn't see that he did it inappropriately and he was definitely not the picture perfect example of a great referee. .
I agree about trying to have influence over who your partner is...during the regular season, I give my assignor a list of partners that I would like to work with to help my development and he is very accomodating...like the old saying goes high tide raises all boats
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The old saying goes high tide raises all boats ...
Until the anchor drags the boat underwater. We've all worked with such "anchors".
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