What you got?

[The_Rookie]

A DOUBLE PF is called in frontcourt while A1 shot is in the air. Basket is good.

1) Count the basket?

2) Double PF = POI?

3) Since no Team Control due to shot in flight..NO POI BUT go to A/P?

Thanks!

[maven]

4.19.8C

It's not quite your situation, but it covers a double foul that occurs during a try.

You need to review what POI means, as one possibility is the AP arrow. 4-36-2

[bob jenkins]

Yes, yes, no.

POI = B's ball with the run of the end-line.

There's a spcific case on this.

If the try was unsuccessful, go to the arrow -- and the inbounds spot is the spot of the foul.

[The_Rookie]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Yes, yes, no.

POI = B's ball with the run of the end-line.

There's a spcific case on this.

If the try was unsuccessful, go to the arrow -- and the inbounds spot is the spot of the foul.

Thanks Bob..as always you lay it out clearly so we can understand the reasoning and not just say..look it up

[maven]

Originally Posted by The_Rookie

Thanks Bob..as always you lay it out clearly so we can understand the reasoning and not just say..look it up

Too bad Bob won't be on the court the next time you need to go to the POI and you don't know the 3 options.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by The_Rookie

Thanks Bob..as always you lay it out clearly so we can understand the reasoning and not just say..look it up

Originally Posted by maven

Too bad Bob won't be on the court the next time you need to go to the POI and you don't know the 3 options.

maven makes a good point. You'll get a lot of answers here that go beyond, "Here's the rule, see what you think." But the point is that unless you actually know the POI rule.

IOW, it's nice to have a little of both. That's what I got when I first started coming here, and it's served me well.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by maven

Too bad Bob won't be on the court the next time you need to go to the POI and you don't know the 3 options.

This exactly.

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by maven

Too bad Bob won't be on the court the next time you need to go to the POI and you don't know the 3 options.

And of course this type of attitude toward someone who really wants to learn the correct ruling on a situation is soooo tremendously helpful. It really is one of the main reasons we do such a great job of keeping younger/newer officials around for such long careers.

[maven]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

And of course this type of attitude toward someone who really wants to learn the correct ruling on a situation is soooo tremendously helpful. It really is one of the main reasons we do such a great job of keeping younger/newer officials around for such long careers.

The bit you've quoted was not my first response. In post #2, I offered a case play and the rule that defines POI.

The OP complained that I was just telling him to "look it up."

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

And of course this type of attitude toward someone who really wants to learn the correct ruling on a situation is soooo tremendously helpful. It really is one of the main reasons we do such a great job of keeping younger/newer officials around for such long careers.

How long is someone a new official? And how many times have they asked a question in a similar fashion? Those factors need to be taken into account also.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by The_Rookie

Thanks Bob..as always you lay it out clearly so we can understand the reasoning and not just say..look it up

There's always a balance between giving a man a fish and teaching a man to fish. I can't tell you how many times I've found something else I didn't know when looking for the answer to a question.

[Zoochy]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Yes, yes, no.

POI = B's ball with the run of the end-line.

There's a spcific case on this.

If the try was unsuccessful, go to the arrow -- and the inbounds spot is the spot of the foul.

I believe, in NFHS, the throw-in (inbounds spot) is the location of the ball for a Double Foul.

[maven]

Originally Posted by Zoochy

I believe, in NFHS, the throw-in (inbounds spot) is the location of the ball for a Double Foul.

Nice catch. 7-5-3b

[Sharpshooternes]

Originally Posted by maven

Nice catch. 7-5-3b

Which leads you to 4-36 which lists the three ways.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Zoochy

I believe, in NFHS, the throw-in (inbounds spot) is the location of the ball for a Double Foul.

I'd like to blame the cold medication I have been taking. I'd really like to.