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Old Wed Oct 16, 2013, 05:12am
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Short of some magical wind in the gym (or for a game on an aircraft carrier), a try is subject to being goaltended until it starts to cross over the edge of the rim and then it is only subject to being interfered with. Once it crosses entirely out of the cylinder, it would be fair game. So, if it is bounced up, it can only be BI (in the cylinder) or legal (out of the cylinder).


The only relevance to a FT is that GT on a FT is a T. If you think about it, there is no possible way to legally block a FT so GT is an deliberate infraction of the rules whereas BI is more about the distinction between a legal rebound and getting to the ball too early. In fact, GT on a FT means the shooter will be getting a substitute shot since, short of having excessively long arms, it would normally be impossible to block a FT without entering the lane.
Thanks Cameron. This is a very helpful description. So basically a try and the penalty is a continuum that begins with a GT. As soon as the ball breaks the cylinder, it then can only be BI from then on, no longer goal tending. Then the ball becomes legal after leaving the cylinder and is no longer touching the rim.

I have also been pondering how it was possible to GT a FT and see from your description why it is penalized as a T.
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Old Wed Oct 16, 2013, 06:23am
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A try is subject to being goaltended until it starts to cross over the edge of the rim and then it is only subject to being interfered with.
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As soon as the ball breaks the cylinder, it then can only be BI from then on, no longer goal tending..
I haven't gotten my new rulebook yet, but for the past few years the reference to "outside the cylinder" was missing from the rule, and an official could call either goaltending, or basket interference, for such a play.

2002-03 NFHS 4-22: Goaltending occurs when a player touches the ball during a field-goal try or tap while: a) the ball is in downward flight. b) the entire ball is above the level of the basket ring. c) the ball has the possibility of entering the basket in flight. d) the ball is not touching an imaginary cylinder which has the basket ring as it's lower base.

2012-13 NFHS 4-22: Goaltending occurs when a player touches the ball during a field-goal try or tap while it is in its downward flight entirely above the basket ring level and has the possibility of entering the basket in flight.

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Old Wed Oct 16, 2013, 07:28am
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I have also been pondering how it was possible to GT a FT and see from your description why it is penalized as a T.
4-22 "... touches the ball outside the cylinder during a FT attempt"
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