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BillyMac Tue Sep 03, 2013 04:34pm

Nfhs ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 904080)
There is also a rule that the game can be shortened with the mutual agreement of the coaches and referee.

5-5-3: Quarter(s) may be shortened in an emergency or at any time by
mutual agreement of the opposing coaches and referee. Playing time and number
of quarters for nonvarsity game quarters may be reduced by mutual agreement
of opposing coaches.

BktBallRef Tue Sep 03, 2013 10:46pm

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Originally Posted by potato (Post 904067)
I notice when the lead is too much, players tend to give up the last 10 seconds and start shaking each other's hand, and when it's the finals coaches & bench players etc will start walking into the court before the buzzer hits, yet no calls were called for such violations. I know it bears no meaning to the game but rules are rules, aren't such action considered serious and both teams should be called for technical fouls?

Do you know what a plumber is?

A plumber is a person who goes looking for $hit.

Don't be a plumber.

potato Wed Sep 04, 2013 03:36am

What if a team throws the ball into the air, bench people starts running in, the opposing team goes & steal the ball and goes for the basket, how would you call it?

Since usually opposing coaches wouldn't just agree it prior walking into the court, people just walk in as an act of being "mutual".

Quote:

Originally Posted by BktBallRef (Post 904125)
Do you know what a plumber is?

A plumber is a person who goes looking for $hit.

Don't be a plumber.


JRutledge Wed Sep 04, 2013 03:43am

Quote:

Originally Posted by potato (Post 904129)
What if a team throws the ball into the air, bench people starts running in, the opposing team goes & steal the ball and goes for the basket, how would you call it?

Since usually opposing coaches wouldn't just agree it prior walking into the court, people just walk in as an act of being "mutual".

You do not comprehend very well I see. What in the heck do you think? You really have to ask?

Peace

Raymond Wed Sep 04, 2013 07:33am

Quote:

Originally Posted by potato (Post 904129)
What if a team throws the ball into the air, bench people starts running in, the opposing team goes & steal the ball and goes for the basket, how would you call it?

Since usually opposing coaches wouldn't just agree it prior walking into the court, people just walk in as an act of being "mutual".

I think your mission is to think up every off-the-wall, ridiculous situation and ask us what we would call. :rolleyes:

Adam Wed Sep 04, 2013 08:50am

Quote:

Originally Posted by potato (Post 904129)
What if a team throws the ball into the air, bench people starts running in, the opposing team goes & steal the ball and goes for the basket, how would you call it?

Since usually opposing coaches wouldn't just agree it prior walking into the court, people just walk in as an act of being "mutual".

How many games have you watched where this actually happens?

Freddy Wed Sep 04, 2013 09:15am

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Originally Posted by Adam (Post 904136)
How many games have you watched where this actually happens?

Never had it. Have never seen it. Must be a regional thing.
Perhaps kinda like the problem with intentional fouls to stop the clock late in the game. Must be a problem somewhere since it's an NFHS POE again this year. But, and I'm quite grateful for this, rampant outbreaks of this apparent red-letter problem don't happen here that I've detected.
I guess I should be happy I live here.

potato Wed Sep 04, 2013 09:21am

Not that it happened but the guy tossed the ball into the air infront of the opponent before everyone steps in, so i'm guess if the opponent really hated losing a championship he'd just grab the ball and do something with it.

In that case the game would be considered still ongoing so you'll have to call technicals on teams that went into the court, even if both team does it, or you'll just gonna ignore the player's action and treat it as irrelevant and end the game?


Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam (Post 904136)
How many games have you watched where this actually happens?


Freddy Wed Sep 04, 2013 09:27am

Another One on My "Do Not Call Back" List
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BktBallRef (Post 904125)
Do you know what a plumber is?
A plumber is a person who goes looking for $hit.
Don't be a plumber.

Ahem.... :mad:

When your wife is giving you eighty-four decibels because floor drain in the basement is perking up all the sewage your thirty-six house guests are flushing through the upstairs toilets on Christmas Day due to the row of maple trees you planted over the top of your old clay tile sewer out to the street and my phone rings to come and rescue you, guess what. I've probably got a game assignment that afternoon. :)

"Every Time You Flush, You Put Food on My Family's Table" :D

bob jenkins Wed Sep 04, 2013 09:32am

Quote:

Originally Posted by potato (Post 904139)
Not that it happened but the guy tossed the ball into the air infront of the opponent before everyone steps in, so i'm guess if the opponent really hated losing a championship he'd just grab the ball and do something with it.

when they toss the ball into the air, they do it such that time will expire before the ball comes down. Most of the time, both teams have been standing around for a few seconds before this, and the game has been conceded.

It doesn't happen in a 1 point game with 15 seconds left.

BillyMac Wed Sep 04, 2013 04:58pm

Kids Do The Darndest Things (With Apologies To Art Linkletter) ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 904142)
When they toss the ball into the air, they do it such that time will expire before the ball comes down. It doesn't happen in a 1 point game with 15 seconds left.

How about a tied game with eleven seconds left? Sometimes weird stuff happens. After all, they're only kids.

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Camron Rust Wed Sep 04, 2013 07:54pm

Apples and Rutabagas, Billy.

In that video, the player heaved the ball, not just to heave it expecting time to expire and just walk off the court, but as a try. Sure, it was a bad try and he mistakenly thought there was less time but it was not at all the same as what this thread is discussion (a celebratory throw)/

BktBallRef Wed Sep 04, 2013 10:18pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by potato (Post 904129)
What if a team throws the ball into the air, bench people starts running in, the opposing team goes & steal the ball and goes for the basket, how would you call it?

That depends. If the shot was released before the horn, I would count the basket. Otherwise, wave it off and head to the showers

Quote:

Originally Posted by potato (Post 904139)
Not that it happened but the guy tossed the ball into the air infront of the opponent before everyone steps in, so i'm guess if the opponent really hated losing a championship he'd just grab the ball and do something with it.

In that case the game would be considered still ongoing so you'll have to call technicals on teams that went into the court, even if both team does it, or you'll just gonna ignore the player's action and treat it as irrelevant and end the game?

Tell you what. You go ahead and call those technical fouls. Maybe you can sell your uniforms on eBay. 'Cause you damn sure won't be working again.

My advice to you: stop trying to come up with these ridiculous situations where you would make a call no other official would ever make and start reading and learning from the veteran officials on this forum. You'll be much better off. Good luck to you!

AremRed Wed Sep 04, 2013 11:04pm

I wonder what potato would call in this situation.

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BillyMac Thu Sep 05, 2013 06:18am

Almost On Topic Video ???
 
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Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 904192)
Apples and Rutabagas, Billy.

Of course I know that. Mr. potato's post just brought this play to mind.


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