Celebration before Game end
 

I notice when the lead is too much, players tend to give up the last 10 seconds and start shaking each other's hand, and when it's the finals coaches & bench players etc will start walking into the court before the buzzer hits, yet no calls were called for such violations. I know it bears no meaning to the game but rules are rules, aren't such action considered serious and both teams should be called for technical fouls?

I anticipate some contention on this subject. If this happens to me during an offseason, AAU, or men's league game I would probably not penalize it. I don't do this, but some of my partners have blown the whistle and declared the game over, especially when players are leaving the court.

During any official game, penalize accordingly. Remember, you need to officiate just as good in the final minutes as in the opening minutes. The score or lead should not matter.

and I suppose you whack a coach for being 1/4" outside the coaching box.

after all, a rule is a rule......:rolleyes:

It Aint Over 'Til It's Over ...
 

If it's less than ten seconds, and if everyone is on the same "sportsmanship page", then I'm staying out there until the buzzer sounds, and unless the ball goes out of bounds, or, for some odd reason, there is some type of foul, I'm probably going to ignore a few violations (carry, three seconds, closely guarded, etc.).

No way I would touch this.

There is also a rule that the game can be shortened with the mutual agreement of the coaches and referee (maybe not a rule in NBA or FIBA).

That's what you see happening.

There's the letter of the law and the spirit of the law. If it's apparent everyone is on the same page, leave it alone. Making a call in that spot only draws (very unwanted) attention to yourself.

If there are more than ten seconds remaining, the ball is in the backcourt and I'm near the person who has it I will tell them - quietly - remember to get into frontcourt. Apart from that, I'll let life play out and stay on the court until the buzzer sounds.

Trouble has a way of finding us in the best of situations. Why go looking for it?

Exactly...:)

Here's a scenario for you. Shot clock game. Team A (with a big lead) has the ball in front court with 10 seconds to go but only 7 seconds on the shot clock. Team start coming on the court and then the shot clock goes off and the game clock stops with 3 seconds to go. Would you just tell the scorekeeper to run off the 3 seconds or would you let everyone go to the locker room with 3 seconds still to go in the game? :)

Ball Game !!

This is going to depend on what level of play you're calling. In an NBA game? You're going to play it out...and even correct the game clock if needed...and if you don't, even in a blowout, you very well could get reprimanded for not doing so (if the game clock should be 3.2 but it shows 3.1, you better put those .1 seconds back). In a college game, I also doubt you'd be able to pull this off. In a high school game that uses a shot clock? You could probably get away with doing this, though I probably wouldn't and make them play it out.

If it is your style of officiating to try to address situations such as this in the manner you suggested, you're going to struggle to be successful. Having a feel for the game is just as important (if not more so) as knowing how to administer the game.

When the teams clearly have end the game by a lack of competition with literally seconds left, let them end the game. And I have yet to have a single supervisor tell us to do anything different.

Peace

Much of this has to do with the betting line.

And in Mark's play (10 seconds on game clock; 7 on shot clock), I'm going to quietly tell the team that they need to shoot -- similar to the BC situation someone posted earlier.

In a practical matter, though, Mark's play won't happen at the college level or above.

I'm the someone :) ...and you got that right! Highly doubtful a college kid won't shoot it on time anyway to try to get the points but you remind them or their coach (quietly) "remember to shoot the ball."

Nfhs ...
 

5-5-3: Quarter(s) may be shortened in an emergency or at any time by
mutual agreement of the opposing coaches and referee. Playing time and number
of quarters for nonvarsity game quarters may be reduced by mutual agreement
of opposing coaches.

Do you know what a plumber is?

A plumber is a person who goes looking for $hit.

Don't be a plumber.

What if a team throws the ball into the air, bench people starts running in, the opposing team goes & steal the ball and goes for the basket, how would you call it?

Since usually opposing coaches wouldn't just agree it prior walking into the court, people just walk in as an act of being "mutual".

You do not comprehend very well I see. What in the heck do you think? You really have to ask?

Peace

I think your mission is to think up every off-the-wall, ridiculous situation and ask us what we would call. :rolleyes:

How many games have you watched where this actually happens?

Never had it. Have never seen it. Must be a regional thing.
Perhaps kinda like the problem with intentional fouls to stop the clock late in the game. Must be a problem somewhere since it's an NFHS POE again this year. But, and I'm quite grateful for this, rampant outbreaks of this apparent red-letter problem don't happen here that I've detected.
I guess I should be happy I live here.

Not that it happened but the guy tossed the ball into the air infront of the opponent before everyone steps in, so i'm guess if the opponent really hated losing a championship he'd just grab the ball and do something with it.

In that case the game would be considered still ongoing so you'll have to call technicals on teams that went into the court, even if both team does it, or you'll just gonna ignore the player's action and treat it as irrelevant and end the game?

Another One on My "Do Not Call Back" List
 

Ahem.... :mad:

When your wife is giving you eighty-four decibels because floor drain in the basement is perking up all the sewage your thirty-six house guests are flushing through the upstairs toilets on Christmas Day due to the row of maple trees you planted over the top of your old clay tile sewer out to the street and my phone rings to come and rescue you, guess what. I've probably got a game assignment that afternoon. :)

"Every Time You Flush, You Put Food on My Family's Table" :D

when they toss the ball into the air, they do it such that time will expire before the ball comes down. Most of the time, both teams have been standing around for a few seconds before this, and the game has been conceded.

It doesn't happen in a 1 point game with 15 seconds left.

Kids Do The Darndest Things (With Apologies To Art Linkletter) ...
 

How about a tied game with eleven seconds left? Sometimes weird stuff happens. After all, they're only kids.

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Apples and Rutabagas, Billy.

In that video, the player heaved the ball, not just to heave it expecting time to expire and just walk off the court, but as a try. Sure, it was a bad try and he mistakenly thought there was less time but it was not at all the same as what this thread is discussion (a celebratory throw)/

That depends. If the shot was released before the horn, I would count the basket. Otherwise, wave it off and head to the showers

Tell you what. You go ahead and call those technical fouls. Maybe you can sell your uniforms on eBay. 'Cause you damn sure won't be working again.

My advice to you: stop trying to come up with these ridiculous situations where you would make a call no other official would ever make and start reading and learning from the veteran officials on this forum. You'll be much better off. Good luck to you!

I wonder what potato would call in this situation.

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Almost On Topic Video ???
 

Of course I know that. Mr. potato's post just brought this play to mind.

Not At Footlocker ???
 

AremRed: Nice video. Thanks for posting. Where can I purchase one of those red official's jerseys?

Hey Billy, fixed it for you, free of charge. :)

Exactly!!!!

Peace

Mr. Manners ...
 

Thank you.

It's actually relevant to my question. But why did the clock stopped after White team's 3 pointer? Is this NBA where the time stops after each basket when time is low? Or was there a foul by the white team bench coming into the court and the referee merely gave it a normal foul instead of a technical so Black still has time to start the game, if that is so shouldn't the referee tell the benches to get out of the court?

But i believe most folks here would just ignore it and end the game after White scored making Black's buzzer beater irrelevant.

If that's what you believe, you're really not paying attention.

You're not aware of which rule sets stop the clock the after made baskets and when that is in effect? :eek:

So all your questions are just for pickup games? :confused:

Under FIBA (that's the international rule set) rules, the clock stops after a made basket when under two minutes in the 4th quarter or any overtime periods. Similar to the NBA rule (except they stop the clock on a made basket when under a minute in the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd quarters and final two minutes of the 4th and any OT), and NCAA rule (final minute of the 2nd half and/or OT).

As to your second point, how did you come to that conclusion? Everything that's been discussed so far as come on the premise, the very one you gave us, that it was the end of a game where the winner/loser is not in doubt. Contrast that with the video where a buzzer beater wins the game for a team. Two different scenarios.